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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:06 PM Dec 2014

Bill de Blasio Moves to Name Streets After Murdered NYPD Officers

Source: NY Observer

Mayor Bill de Blasio announced today he will introduce legislation with Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito to name streets in Brooklyn after two NYPD officers who were recently murdered.

The officers, Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos, were shot and killed in their patrol car on December 20, setting off a new round of bitter conflict between City Hall and police unions.

“Our fallen heroes will never be forgotten. Their memory lives on in their families, and in the NYPD family,” Mr. de Blasio said in a statement. “And now it will live on in the streets of the communities these brave men lived in and protected. This is an expression of our pride in each of these men, and our sadness at their loss.”



Edited to add: I'm not criticizing deBlasio for this.

Read more: http://observer.com/2014/12/bill-de-blasio-moves-to-name-streets-after-murdered-nypd-officers/

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Bill de Blasio Moves to Name Streets After Murdered NYPD Officers (Original Post) LiberalElite Dec 2014 OP
hmm.. he didn't have a choice, did he... nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #1
Yes he had a choice. Look at john mccain voting no for establishing Martin Luther King Day still_one Dec 2014 #2
I like De Blasio but that's a rather unimaginative response. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #3
It isn't confused urban nomenclature LiberalElite Dec 2014 #6
My point exactly. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #11
It's in the upper end of midtown - the Edward I. Koch Bridge a/k/a LiberalElite Dec 2014 #12
Brilliant move actually. 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #4
Is it a standard thing done after NYPD officers die, or is it pandering to the bullies? DRoseDARs Dec 2014 #5
P.O. Edward Byrne, killed on duty 1988 - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #8
If that's the only example then no, not standard. DRoseDARs Dec 2014 #9
It's clearly pandering, and it will mean nothing I"ll bet. NorthCarolina Dec 2014 #13
They died in the line of duty. eggplant Dec 2014 #14
Let me propose the names Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #7
The street namings are a entirely cost-free means to reduce tensions in the city. branford Dec 2014 #10
Whatever happened to him, anyway? eggplant Dec 2014 #15
Heh. branford Dec 2014 #18
Name a street after Garner then also. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #16
Garner should not have been killed. branford Dec 2014 #19
It's not going to satisfy the haters. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #17
Wow. I think this is great. C Moon Jan 2015 #20
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
3. I like De Blasio but that's a rather unimaginative response.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:14 PM
Dec 2014

I hope there's LESS where that came from.

No, I don't have any simple answers.

In the meantime, the maps will say "57th Place"... or whatever... and the signs will say "Ramos and Liu Blvd."

That's exactly what we need: more confused urban nomenclature.

I think of this whenever I imagine out-of-towners trying to find the Ed Koch/59th Street/Queensboro Bridge.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
6. It isn't confused urban nomenclature
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:23 PM
Dec 2014

everyone will still call it "57th place". It's an accepted symbolic gesture. It's been done before in NYC.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
11. My point exactly.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:47 PM
Dec 2014

"It's been done before in NYC."

And before and before and before.

How did naming the Throggs Neck (Bronx) JHS the "Piagentini and Jones School" ( after the 1971 victims of a political assassination) help in any way to bridge the city's racial/ethnic/economic/ institutional divides?

Again: Unimaginative.

And QUICK: What's the name of that bridge over the East River in midtown?

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
12. It's in the upper end of midtown - the Edward I. Koch Bridge a/k/a
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 06:09 PM
Dec 2014

the Queensboro Bridge and - the 59th Street Bridge (who did a song about that?)

To me it's immaterial that they're naming two streets for the slain cops. They can do that and still act to solve the serious problems with police brutality and other issues. They can do both. To imply that it stops with a street naming is silly.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
13. It's clearly pandering, and it will mean nothing I"ll bet.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 06:24 PM
Dec 2014

The officers deaths are just a convenient avenue for the outrage being propagated against him, and more precisely, his family. The outrage will continue for as long as the conservatives can gain media attention from it.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
14. They died in the line of duty.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:02 PM
Dec 2014

It seems like an easy tribute to make. Now, if they named the two intersecting streets where they were gunned down after them, that would be a bit tacky.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
7. Let me propose the names
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:24 PM
Dec 2014

He can re-christen the streets at the corner where "Political Expediency Boulevard" meets "Pandering Alley".

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
10. The street namings are a entirely cost-free means to reduce tensions in the city.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:43 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Wed Dec 31, 2014, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

You may call it political expediency, but deBlasio is in fact a politician, and the move is very good politics.

There was absolutely nothing controversial about the lives and actions of Officers Liu and Ramos, the gesture is not something uncommon in NYC, will be appreciated by the family, friends and supporters of the officers, including the NYPD, does not in any way diminish the mayor's support for police reforms, and will provide a mature and very public contrast to the inflammatory and divisive statements by the police unions.

If I had to choose between renaming streets for innocent murdered officers or continued city tensions and resultant decline of Mayor deBlasio's approval ratings, I'll choose the streets every time. The mayor is trying not to emulate the dismal political example set by our last liberal, one-term mayor, David Dinkins. I, for one, am glad that deBlasio is showing such political acumen. Let's not forget that the mistakes of Dinkins led to the election of Giuliani and twenty years (!!!) of conservative rule of NYC.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
18. Heh.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014


Last I heard, Dinkins was promoting his book in which he bitterly complains that he was not treated fairly and was not in any responsible for anything bad or unpopular in NYC during his tenure as mayor. I heard him interviewed a couple time about the book, and he seems really angry and a little pathetic. You would never believe he was the mayor of America's largest city.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
16. Name a street after Garner then also.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:06 PM
Dec 2014

See how the racist NYPD reacts to having the city memorialize one a police murder victim.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
19. Garner should not have been killed.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 08:45 PM
Dec 2014

However, he was hardly unfamiliar with the criminal justice system and was not a "hero," at least as the term is understood by most of the public. Eric Garner unquestionably deserves justice, but any attempt to lionize him would most certainly be very controversial, and to many, actually be damning evidence of the claim that the mayor excuses criminality and is truly "anti-police."

It's not like the streets are not being named for Daniel Pantaleo, who will forever have a dark cloud over him for Garner's death, but rather for two entirely innocent and apparently commendable officers (who are both minorities, btw) who were executed for simply and honorably doing their jobs protecting the citizens of the city. There is no need for some "balancing" measure by the mayor, and any attempt would likely quickly eradicate any goodwill generated by the anticipated street renamings.

Eric Garner will ultimately be memorialized by reforms of the police department. If Mayor deBlasio's poll numbers do not rebound, however, that goal becomes ever increasingly difficult to achieve.

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