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Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:51 PM Apr 2012

Brazil cannibal sect used human flesh for empanada pasties

Source: GlobalPost

Three people arrested on suspicion of murdering at least two women in Brazil have confessed to eating some of their victims’ flesh and using it to make the empanada pasties they sold to their neighbours, police said Friday.
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The accused, a man and two women, were arrested Wednesday in the town of Garanhuns in Brazil’s northeastern Pernambuco state. They said they were members of a sect and claimed a “voice” had commanded them to kill women they considered evil.

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Read more: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/brazil/120414/brazil-cannibal-sect-used-human-flesh-empanada-pasties



Good GAWD!! Really? This is just sickening beyond belief. They killed WOMEN, (Of, course, what else?), and chopped them up into meat pies and sold them ALL OVER TOWN INCLUDING THE LOCAL BEAT COPS!! If I found this out and I had eaten some of this "meat"...Oh LAWD... I would hurt someone and probably NEVER.EAT.OUT.AGAIN.
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Brazil cannibal sect used human flesh for empanada pasties (Original Post) Ecumenist Apr 2012 OP
Sometimes it's men, too... Ian David Apr 2012 #1
IN THIS CASE , IN BRAZIL it was ONLY women! What happened in Malawi had NOTHING to do Ecumenist Apr 2012 #4
And it was a WOMAN who cooked it up snooper2 Apr 2012 #37
So the Fuck what...AND?!! Your point is? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #40
In several posts you made extra effort to point out TWO WOMEN snooper2 Apr 2012 #41
Yes, I guess that makes things better. Female genital mutilation is carried out on little girls Ecumenist Apr 2012 #42
Females tend 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #43
Ed Gein or Jeffrey Dahmer- not sure which but is that you? Cannibalise much? A Ecumenist Apr 2012 #45
A) I was being flippant 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #46
First of all, did I ever say the ONLY WOMEN ARE CANNIBALISED?? I said that the so called Ecumenist Apr 2012 #47
Did you mean something else by: 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #48
Darlin', forget it cause it's going right over your head and there's no point of trying to get you Ecumenist Apr 2012 #56
What's I suppose that's one way to acknowledge your premise was wrong 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #57
saw that on t.v. cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #2
And this is where I saw it... Joe Bacon Apr 2012 #26
BLECH cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #28
It's like Sweeney Todd revisited pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #3
How do you say "Sweeney Todd" in Portuguese? KamaAina Apr 2012 #5
Sweeney Todd' empanadas da carne de s azurnoir Apr 2012 #11
Oh dear! Shades of Sweeney Todd's Mrs. Lovett, who made meat pies from Cleita Apr 2012 #6
You probably don't need to read this, kentauros Apr 2012 #27
Hey I cut my hand over a prime rib roast when slicing it and bled on it. Cleita Apr 2012 #32
As yucky as that sounds, kentauros Apr 2012 #33
Yes, making people go to work even when they are sick is a problem, not only Cleita Apr 2012 #34
I'd love to see some laws addressing this area. kentauros Apr 2012 #35
Years ago I had a job where I got to see all the inner workings of big downtown buildings. There was freshwest Apr 2012 #50
How many is a brazillion? Orrex Apr 2012 #7
Um whut? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #8
Stick around, kiddo. Orrex Apr 2012 #14
Does this LOOK like a daily briefing? Dr. Strange Apr 2012 #25
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth Marrah_G Apr 2012 #9
Some people have funny attitudes towards "voices" saras Apr 2012 #10
You and me both Saras. I would probably make an appointment with a doctor once I searched the house Ecumenist Apr 2012 #12
Yeah. Well. Orrex Apr 2012 #13
Had that experience recently. DCKit Apr 2012 #16
Spooky. Bette Noir Apr 2012 #22
Go to the track. Challenge the voices to pick just winners. dimbear Apr 2012 #18
Or you ask the voices which one of them would win in a fight. saras Apr 2012 #51
Bwahaha! You are so riight! freshwest Apr 2012 #49
empanada pasties or Empanada Pastry? RC Apr 2012 #15
Not really. A pasty is a turnover made in the Cornwall district of England. Cleita Apr 2012 #17
Read the menu carefully. Bette Noir Apr 2012 #23
The picture is an empanada as a turnover. Cleita Apr 2012 #24
Empanada means the same thing in MANY Spanish speakintg countries. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #31
To me "empanada" and "pasty" are different words for the same thing. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #52
Pretty much. You are right. Cleita Apr 2012 #53
Dick Cheney wants their recipe magic59 Apr 2012 #19
Try the priest... N/t Politicub Apr 2012 #20
Coming soon to Soho Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #21
"Pasties"?? Javaman Apr 2012 #29
A Pasty is a MEAT FILLED PIE, in Wales and Cornwall in the UK.. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #30
You will find them in the UP of Michigan... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #44
The women were "evil"? Honestly, it sounds like an excuse for meat hunting. Quantess Apr 2012 #36
Great. I'm hungry now. nt Phoonzang Apr 2012 #38
Really? That's a little creepy, PhoonZag...I hope you're kidding because this is a REAL case Ecumenist Apr 2012 #39
UI think I'm gonna be sick! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #54
Puts a whole new meaning to the "war on women" nt crunch60 Apr 2012 #55

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
1. Sometimes it's men, too...
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
Apr 2012

Police arrest man selling freshly cut penis

LILONGWE, Malawi - Police in Malawi have arrested a 24 year old man after he tried to sell the freshly cut penis from a 45 year old.

<snip>

Police said Banda had admitted selling “many body parts to well known business personalities”. Many locals believe human parts can bring riches, and unscrupulous businessmen and witchdoctors pay thousands of kwachas to poor locals to kill people and mutilate their bodies.

More (Warning: Graphic):
http://www.thezimbabwemail.com/world/11221-police-arrest-man-selling-freshly-cut-penis.html

Or children...

Albino girl killed for body parts

A six-year-old albino girl in Burundi has been found dead with her head and limbs removed, in the latest killing linked to ritual medicine.

Albinos in the region have been targeted because of a belief peddled by witchdoctors that their body parts can be used for magic potions.

More:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7733597.stm

But why should we let government regulate alternative medicine?

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
4. IN THIS CASE , IN BRAZIL it was ONLY women! What happened in Malawi had NOTHING to do
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:57 PM
Apr 2012

with eating. It had everything to do with "prosperity magic" It also HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALING DISEASE, IANDAVID! It's all about imbuing the buyer with luck and prosperity using dark magical beliefs.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
40. So the Fuck what...AND?!! Your point is?
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:56 PM
Apr 2012

HUMAN BEINGS WERE MURDERED, CUT UP LIKE SO MUCH MEAT AND EATEN...GOOD GRIEF, TALK ABOUT NOT GETTING THE POINT. WOW.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
41. In several posts you made extra effort to point out TWO WOMEN
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:30 PM
Apr 2012

I simply pointed out, yeah, and a WOMAN did the cooking--

I didn't think the sex of the victim was as important as you did apparently. Oh, and with over 7 Billion people on this planet, you are bound to have cases of cannibalism. As the numbers rise chances for crazy shit to happen increase exponentially. I'm sure next week we will have somebody in Greece trying to fuck a rabbit or somebody in Austria come out with a recipe for foreskin dumplings

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
42. Yes, I guess that makes things better. Female genital mutilation is carried out on little girls
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:27 PM
Apr 2012

by women who KNOW how horrific the procedure is and what the VERY real outcome can be. There is a component to why they chose women only, it AIN'T rocket science to figure that part out for most of us.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
43. Females tend
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:45 AM
Apr 2012

to produce more tender meat. Males are tougher and often have a gamey flavor (uncastrated males that is, and castrated male humans are hard to find these days).

So it kinda makes sense if you're doing it as a food source.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
45. Ed Gein or Jeffrey Dahmer- not sure which but is that you? Cannibalise much? A
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:54 AM
Apr 2012

connoisseur, are ya? Lobbyist for People Eaters of America? WTF??!! You completely SKIPPED over the point I was trying to make...sigh, (SMDH).

This had so much less to do with finding a food source as it did with arcane and self created craziness that posed as spiritualism while focusing on UTILISING women's bodies. FGM-same thing! The republican attempt to hijack women's bodies...EXACTLY THE SAME THING! Wow..and we wonder why this still happens in the bloody 21ST CENTURY!!!!

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
46. A) I was being flippant
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:18 PM
Apr 2012

B) you made the point that it's always women in these cases when that clearly isn't not true.

Women are not always the victims of cannibalism. So portraying this as a sexism issue rather than a mental illness issue is inaccurate.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
47. First of all, did I ever say the ONLY WOMEN ARE CANNIBALISED?? I said that the so called
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:41 PM
Apr 2012

spiritualistic in COMBINATION with the fact that they ONLY murdered and ate women was the issue. Try to keep up.. LOL!! WOW!

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
48. Did you mean something else by:
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:20 PM
Apr 2012
They killed WOMEN, (Of, course, what else?)


There have been religious nuts who eat men and religious nuts who eat women. In this case it was women, but that isn't the trend.

I'm really not seeing where you're going with this.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
56. Darlin', forget it cause it's going right over your head and there's no point of trying to get you
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:01 AM
Apr 2012

to see what is clear as day. Frankly, don't care if you understand. I'm through with talking to you about something you seem determined to misunderstand. Trying to explain this to you is like trying to push a car uphill with a rope. END.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
57. What's I suppose that's one way to acknowledge your premise was wrong
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:17 AM
Apr 2012

not the best and far from the most mature, but it will have to do.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. Oh dear! Shades of Sweeney Todd's Mrs. Lovett, who made meat pies from
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 06:06 PM
Apr 2012

the remains of Todd's victims.

btw. If you walked into many commercial kitchens and saw what was going on, you would never eat out again anyway. I worked in a lot of restaurants in my lifetime.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
27. You probably don't need to read this,
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:59 AM
Apr 2012

but any time this subject is broached, I pull out this story, for the newbies, and aspiring cooks/chefs

Chefs Rule! (Houston Press, July 7 2005)

I have also worked in commercial bakeries and a couple of restaurants, and the stories are all the same. I watched one chef "cauterize" a bleeding knuckle with a hot frying pan. I was agog at him as he did it, but his reasoning was because "the bandaid wouldn't stay on"

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
32. Hey I cut my hand over a prime rib roast when slicing it and bled on it.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:02 PM
Apr 2012

The cook mixed my blood in with the pan juices and simmered it on the stove for a few minutes to cook it in with the au jus.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
33. As yucky as that sounds,
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:27 PM
Apr 2012

what more people need to know about restaurants (at least in the US) is that unless you, the employee, are dead or dying, your supervisor/manager/employer wants you to come into work or you're fired.

So, no matter what illness or injury you may have, you must come into work or else. How often are customers exposed to illnesses where they eat without knowing it? I would bet it's quite often and then they attribute their catching something to getting it from their coworkers, friends, or family...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. Yes, making people go to work even when they are sick is a problem, not only
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:56 PM
Apr 2012

in restaurants but other jobs like supermarkets. We need laws addressing this.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
35. I'd love to see some laws addressing this area.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:19 PM
Apr 2012

I just don't have much confidence in the current climate that they would pass. Elected officials are still too business/corporate-friendly to get much past them to reign in these methods of greed. And I don't even think some massive food-born-illness epidemic would hasten the passing of such laws, either. Businesses seem to be quite good at "damage-control" these days...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
50. Years ago I had a job where I got to see all the inner workings of big downtown buildings. There was
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
Apr 2012

And still is, a very expensive hotel that I was planning to go and have a nice lunch in their sunny indoor atrium dining room. Sort of a special treat for myself.

But my co-workers warned me, 'Don't eat there, the kitchen would make a maggot gag!!'

Sure enough, I walked around the back to where they made all those lovely pastries and there were big old palmetto bugs climbing all over them, taste testing.

As they say about flies, 'They don't eat much.'

I saw one of the help select one, shaking the bug off, and put it on a nice paper doily on a lovely china plate to serve. The business crowd were clueless as they sat down to enjoy their dessert.

Sooo, those little black dots in baked goods are not always just where a seed or some flour got burned.

Yummy!!!

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
10. Some people have funny attitudes towards "voices"
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 06:35 PM
Apr 2012

I don't know about you, but if I started hearing "voices" telling me to kill and eat people, believing them is going to be REALLY FAR DOWN THE LIST of things I do. Searching the house, checking my stereo, poking around the neighborhood for suspicious people or technology, maybe even seeing a psychiatrist.

But taking their word? Nah, I don't think so...

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
12. You and me both Saras. I would probably make an appointment with a doctor once I searched the house
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 06:43 PM
Apr 2012

quick, fast and in a hurry.

Orrex

(63,185 posts)
13. Yeah. Well.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:15 PM
Apr 2012

Some people who hear voices are revered as mystics.

Others kill and eat people.


Go figure.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
16. Had that experience recently.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:31 PM
Apr 2012

Apparently, when the conditions are just right, the steel structure of our family house in the mountains picks up radio signals.

Very unnerving.

Bette Noir

(3,581 posts)
22. Spooky.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:18 AM
Apr 2012

Our neighborhood has weird acoustics. We can hear people talking two blocks away, and hear sea lions barking four miles away. I almost jumped out of my skin, once, when I heard a big dog panting right behind me. When I looked up, the dog was half a mile away, on the other side of the gully that funnels the sound up to our house.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
18. Go to the track. Challenge the voices to pick just winners.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:27 PM
Apr 2012

After that you'd probably lose interest in all the slaughter and just lie on the beach at Ipanema. Or just lose some money. Either way you're good.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
51. Or you ask the voices which one of them would win in a fight.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:15 PM
Apr 2012

My favorite is where someone "beat the Devil" and got to ask the Devil to do one thing, which was stand inside a pentagram, which he then drew ON THE DEVIL. Bye...

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
15. empanada pasties or Empanada Pastry?
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:28 PM
Apr 2012

I'm thinking that they may be somewhat different.

English as a second language responsible?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. Not really. A pasty is a turnover made in the Cornwall district of England.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:45 PM
Apr 2012

An empanada is a turnover made in Latin American countries. Both have some kind of meat filling with other vegetables. The Latin American versions may also have hard boiled egg pieces, raisins and olives in them. I have had both and except for some of the fillings, they are almost identical.

Bette Noir

(3,581 posts)
23. Read the menu carefully.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:20 AM
Apr 2012

In Mexico and Argentina, an empanada is a turnover. In other parts of the Spanish-speaking world, and empanada is a breaded cutlet.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
24. The picture is an empanada as a turnover.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:35 AM
Apr 2012

Brazil isn't Spanish speaking btw. I am familiar with differences in language in different countries. For instance, a tortilla in Mexico is a flat bread. In Chile it's a cake that's like a tart.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
31. Empanada means the same thing in MANY Spanish speakintg countries.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:23 AM
Apr 2012

Yes but in THIS case , they're CLEARLY talking about a turnover.

 

magic59

(429 posts)
19. Dick Cheney wants their recipe
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:35 PM
Apr 2012

Since he made a pact with the devil for a new heart he wants to eat a healthier diet.

Javaman

(62,507 posts)
29. "Pasties"??
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:39 AM
Apr 2012

maybe cannibalism means something completely different in Brazil than it does here.

Man eating Burlesque?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
36. The women were "evil"? Honestly, it sounds like an excuse for meat hunting.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:11 PM
Apr 2012

A justification for cannibalism. They probably were only concerned about the tenderness of the meat.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
39. Really? That's a little creepy, PhoonZag...I hope you're kidding because this is a REAL case
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:53 PM
Apr 2012

where REAL HUMAN BEINGS were MURDERED, MUTILATED, <<COOKED>>, SOLD & EATEN!! Don't quite get the joke, so I'm going to assume you forgot the "Sarcasm" smilie...

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