Why Won't the Left Get Behind Bernie Sanders '16?
By Bill Scher - August 18, 2014
"There is a wariness of Hillary Clinton in some corners of the left.
"Will Hillary be with Wall Street like she's been all along?" asks the executive director of Democracy for America. "Generalissima Hillary Clinton," scoffs Ralph Naderand that was before her hawkish interview with The Atlantic. Clintons skeptics want her to face a primary challenger, if not to defeat her then to apply enough left-flank pressure so she will not have an incentive to drift rightward in the general election (or as president). Strangely, they are ignoring someone who is already auditioning for the role of progressive populist challenger, and who has the chops to back it up: Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
Left-wing Democrats pine for Sen. Elizabeth Warren. But she has emphatically said she is not running, nor is she doing anything prospective candidates have to do to prepare to run, like visit early primary states.
Sanders is practically identical to Warren when it comes to the issues progressive populists care aboutand where they consider Clinton squishy. He wants to break up the big banks so they cant be too big to fail. He wants to see bankers responsible for the 2008 crash thrown in jail. He was one of only four senators, including Warren, to oppose President Obamas nominee for U.S. trade representative in protest of the White Houses push for regional trade agreements with Europe and Asia. He would increase, not cut, Social Security benefits.
For liberals who consider Clinton suspect on military matters, Sanders voted against the most recent defense spending bill, saying it was another bloated military budget. Warren, who represents a state with six military bases, voted for it.
Sanders holds an even bigger advantage over Warren: Hes actually interested in running."
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/08/18/why_wont_the_left_get_behind_bernie_sanders_16_123680.html
Excellent article and argument, well worth the entire read.
randys1
(16,286 posts)I know she is great on finance and maybe jobs, but she used to be a republican so what is what with her on the rest I wonder
MFM008
(19,805 posts)he is viewed as the senatorial Dennis Kucinich. Sorry I like Bernie but he just cant win nationwide. Can you see Clinton take Kentucky...yes......Bernie???? No.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)I would be happy to vote for Sanders but I agree that it seems unlikely he could win.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)for the Democratic-left as much as to force Hillary on the record to repudiate the DLC, Wall Street, free-trade and her own hawkishness.
I disagree further with your supposition, not because Bernie can win Kentucky but because we don't need to win Kentucky. I'm almost getting tired of saying this...there is no EC path for the GOP to a win unless they can sweep the battleground states of OH, FL and VA and take one more safe Democratic state away in 2016. The EC map is a Democratic lock-cinch unless our candidate makes an election-blowing misstep. It's just not happening. It does not matter who we nominate...we could win with Kucinich even and he's a conspiracy theorist crank. Sanders is just really left-wing.
There is no reason to nominate Clinton because we have no necessity to moderate Democratic core-values in order to win in 2016.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Why can the GOP nominate Reagan and Bush W. Bush and get away with it? Because they don't succumb to defeatist thinking the way the Left does.
We need to vote for our beliefs and for the person who best represents our vision and values. Not some grifting, triangulating, opportunist that would disown us as soon as the election was announced.
Thank you, Chan790, for your post.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I'm sick of choosing reactionaries, Democrat or Republican because of the tautological argument that a more progressive candidate can't win. Well, of course they can't if you don't vote for them!
agbdf
(200 posts)I, however, am fully behind Hillary. I believe she will be our next President.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)as Bernie hasn't become a Democrat thus far...
agbdf
(200 posts)If he does this, I would not fault a Democrat supporting him. I just am supporting a different candidate - HRC.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Bernie is not a Democrat...he is not eligible to.
agbdf
(200 posts)Any person, so long as they meet the legal and constitutional requirements, can file to run in the Democratic presidential Primaries and Caucuses.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)you are supposed to look it up! Didn't you do term papers in high school? That is how you support your point....you validate them by providing proof.
pssssstttt...
Bernie said no such thing....
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He could serve very well in his current position to hold the bankers accountable for their actions. We need a well rounded candidate for president.
4now
(1,596 posts)He is an independent.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Bernie (if he runs) will run as a Dem.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016100146#post23
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
Paka
(2,760 posts)and would love to vote for him. I can not and will not vote for Hillary. Bernie may be an independent, but Hillary is a Republican through and through.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Bernie's quotes. I don't believe that the left can't coalesce around him (or Warren, or he and Warren).
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)4dsc
(5,787 posts)We need to get the Democratic party back to where is represent the majority of people and not the moneyed interests.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)BTW, he said he will run as a Democrat to make sure he's not another Nader.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)polynomial
(750 posts)For years We the People hear the rhetoric Bipartisan.
Guess in my retirement age I have had it with these politicians.
We need ass kicking politicians to put away Wall streets lies thats ok we will adjust we the people can trade on eBay or any place that really is a free market.
They want free market and they will get it. No more nice guy no more Cayman Island tax dodgers.
Its only my gut feeling Bernie or Hillary do not have the wherewithal to send who ever need it to hell. They have to say it commit themselves to really clean house. Thought Obama would do it found out not going to happen.
Its time for the hammer of justice to clobber the Supreme Court to get rid of half of it...
We the people need legions of Grand Juries to indict not only the Rick Perrys but a laundry list of others. It baffles me how Texas voters put up with this fool.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Sanders/Warren '16 <= totally a winning ticket imho
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)But we'll be up against both parties and many on this site.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)support someone for jumping in just to take advantage of the infrastructure built by Democrats, because he belongs to a party that has none. No turning over our resources (money, mailing lists, etc) to someone who has wanted to keep his distance from the "democratic" label all these years. Screw that.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)The Democrats? Not so much.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Well said.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Those pigeons will come home to roost, eventually.