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unrepentant progress

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Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:27 PM Aug 2014

Cornel West talks Ferguson, Hillary, MSNBC

So that’s my first question, it’s a lot of ground to cover but how do you feel things have worked out since then, both with the economy and with this president? That was a huge turning point, that moment in 2008, and my own feeling is that we didn’t turn.

No, the thing is he posed as a progressive and turned out to be counterfeit. We ended up with a Wall Street presidency, a drone presidency, a national security presidency. The torturers go free. The Wall Street executives go free. The war crimes in the Middle East, especially now in Gaza, the war criminals go free. And yet, you know, he acted as if he was both a progressive and as if he was concerned about the issues of serious injustice and inequality and it turned out that he’s just another neoliberal centrist with a smile and with a nice rhetorical flair. And that’s a very sad moment in the history of the nation because we are—we’re an empire in decline. Our culture is in increasing decay. Our school systems are in deep trouble. Our political system is dysfunctional. Our leaders are more and more bought off with legalized bribery and normalized corruption in Congress and too much of our civil life. You would think that we needed somebody—a Lincoln-like figure who could revive some democratic spirit and democratic possibility.

That’s exactly what everyone was saying at the time.

That’s right. That’s true. It was like, “We finally got somebody who can help us turn the corner.” And he posed as if he was a kind of Lincoln.

Yeah. That’s what everyone was saying.


And we ended up with a brown-faced Clinton. Another opportunist. Another neoliberal opportunist. It’s like, “Oh, no, don’t tell me that!” I tell you this, because I got hit hard years ago, but everywhere I go now, it’s “Brother West, I see what you were saying. Brother West, you were right. Your language was harsh and it was difficult to take, but you turned out to be absolutely right.” And, of course with Ferguson, you get it reconfirmed even among the people within his own circle now, you see. It’s a sad thing. It’s like you’re looking for John Coltrane and you get Kenny G in brown skin.

Full interview: http://www.salon.com/2014/08/24/cornel_west_he_posed_as_a_progressive_and_turned_out_to_be_counterfeit_we_ended_up_with_a_wall_street_presidency_a_drone_presidency
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Cornel West talks Ferguson, Hillary, MSNBC (Original Post) unrepentant progress Aug 2014 OP
K&R.... daleanime Aug 2014 #1
I know some find him too controversial...but, he does have a point... KoKo Aug 2014 #2
Excellent point. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #3
yep Doctor_J Aug 2014 #4
I agree with every word he said. Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #5

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. I know some find him too controversial...but, he does have a point...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:28 PM
Aug 2014

and I know he's always seemed harsh against Obama...so many didn't like him...but, he does get down into the weeds when we look at what's going on today which looks like a revisit to MLK's March time.

And, I remember that time ....all too vividly...and I guess some expected to much, in this day and age, from a President who was barely born at that time and was raised in Hawaii ...far away from it all and had an International Upbringing due to his mother's work and profession and that his Grandparents were making a new life in multi-cultural Hawaii...and weren't involved in the Civil Rights Movement here in the USA..

He certainly wasn't immune from it...but he didn't live it..and he is trying to make up for centuries of repression that he had no experience of. I think he's doing the best he can with relating...but Cornell West should have been consulted and he wasnt...because he was too radical and our Dem Party didn't want any of that. So...now we revisit the 60's with the Cops going after "people of color" ....and we've got to fix it all over again...

He just isn't that involved with it.. It was left up to Eric Holder...and Holder is the one who should be accountable because he DID have that experience of being "Black" in America....

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. yep
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:44 PM
Aug 2014

Corporate right wing establishment fraud. The party is in deep trouble because he's turned his back on the people who voted for him - the people who have to vote in order for the democrats to win elections. What's more is that the country is in trouble.

And electing Hillary won't help much.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
5. I agree with every word he said. Kicked and recommended!
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 07:37 AM
Aug 2014
"It’s like you’re looking for John Coltrane and you get Kenny G in brown skin."

I can't stand Kenny G.
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