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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 05:59 PM Oct 2014

Secret CIA Document: Americans Are “Coarse,” “Emotional” and Lack Civility

"The upper class in every country always believes the commoners are appallingly crass, irrational and impolite. (For instance, here’s a column by George Will called ”Civility and Civilization.”) Meanwhile from the commoners’ perspective, it’s pretty crass, irrational and impolite of the upper class to keep shooting them in the face.

The CIA has just declassified an article from its in-house magazine "Studies in Intelligence” embodying this dynamic. The article describes the CIA’s response to Gary Webb's 1996 San Jose Mercury News series "Dark Alliance" about the CIA’s protection of Nicaraguan contras whom the CIA knew were smuggling cocaine into the U.S.

Webb’s reporting was accurate and, we now know (partly thanks to an internal CIA investigation triggered by the series) arguably conservative. But from the perspective of "Studies in Intelligence," the problem wasn’t the CIA's alliance with drug dealers; it was that stupid, crude Americans believed this scurrilously accurate nonsense:

…ultimately the CIA-drug story says a lot more about American society on the eve of the millennium than it does about either CIA or the media. We live in somewhat coarse and emotional times—when large numbers of Americans do not adhere to the same standards of logic, evidence, or even civil discourse as those practiced by members of the CIA community."
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Secret CIA Document: Americans Are “Coarse,” “Emotional” and Lack Civility (Original Post) midnight Oct 2014 OP
We needed a secret document to tell us that? Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #1
I don't think this article was ever meant for our eyes. midnight Oct 2014 #5
Pardon me while I fart in the general direction of the CIA nt LiberalEsto Oct 2014 #2
Fear Drives All cantbeserious Oct 2014 #3
is this an example of CIA of secrecy? DeadEyeDyck Oct 2014 #4
I think it is an example of what happens when a FOIA request for information no longer midnight Oct 2014 #6
What fascinates me... malthaussen Oct 2014 #7
What a load of shit DJ13 Oct 2014 #8
, blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #9
Of course they're speaking specifically of Teapublicans and Teabillies. Spookily accurate. They... marble falls Oct 2014 #10

midnight

(26,624 posts)
5. I don't think this article was ever meant for our eyes.
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 06:31 PM
Oct 2014

"this article was declassified as the result of a lawsuit against the CIA by a former employee, Jeffrey Scudder. Scudder had pointed out that the CIA was refusing to release hundreds of decades-old documents that, according to the law, could no longer be kept secret. In response, the CIA very logically and civilly destroyed his career."

midnight

(26,624 posts)
6. I think it is an example of what happens when a FOIA request for information no longer
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 06:46 PM
Oct 2014

protected.

"“I submitted a FOIA and it basically destroyed my entire career,” Scudder said. “What was this whole exercise for?”

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
7. What fascinates me...
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 06:52 PM
Oct 2014

... is not that they kept such a document in their files -- totalitarians are famous for keeping incriminating evidence lying around -- but why, in their little circle of firelight where they all knew this to be true in the first place, was the study even undertaken?

-- Mal

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