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adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:52 PM Oct 2014

Sanders: Only If 'Millions and Millions' Rise Up, Can Progressive Agenda Win

Looking beyond the importance of election day, independent from Vermont says grassroots movement must embrace bold progressive agenda and understand that 'politics is a 365 days a year.'
by
Jon Queally, staff writer

In an interview with journalist Bill Moyers that will air Friday, U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)—who has announced he is seriously considering a run for president in 2016—said that though voter turnout is key in order to keep Republicans and their regressive polices from making gains in Congress and local elections nationwide, the real challenge for progressives in the coming days, months, and years is to build a powerful grassroots movement that is able to break the stranglehold that big money and corporate interests have placed on the nation's democratic insitutions.

"What we have got to do is mobilize the American people in a way that we have not seen in recent history around a progressive agenda," said Sanders.

When asked by Moyers how such a mobilization might be realized, Sanders admitted that he does "not have any magical solutions," but said that when people begin to stand up and say "Enough is enough"—and talk about doing well by their kids, protecting the environment, fighting corporate interests, winning healthcare for all, and taking on the billionaire class—the movement from below will inevitably shift the current debate. "When people begin to move, the people on top will follow them," he said.

"What I do know," Sanders continued, is that the landscape of U.S. politics will not change for the better "if we do not create an economy that works for ordinary people, if we do not end the fact that 95 percent of all new income now goes to the top one percent. We've got to end it, and the only way I know to do that is to rally ordinary people around the progressive agenda. So our job is to create a 50 state, grassroots movement around a progressive agenda."

Asked by Moyers about similar-sounding populist rhetoric used by President Obama when he first ran for president in 2008, Sanders responded: "I have lot of respect for Barack Obama. But, his biggest mistake is that, after running a brilliant campaign in 2008, where millions of people in fact were galvanized, young people, people of color came out and said, 'Hey, we're going to make some real change.' The day after the election he said, okay, thank you very much. Now I'm going to work inside the Beltway and we're going to start negotiating with Republicans and all that stuff. The simple truth is, in my view, nothing gets done unless millions and millions of people will demand it. Politics is 365 days a year."

"Not just voting?" asked Moyers.

"Exactly," said Sanders. "And anyone, you can have the best person in the world as president of the United States, that person will accomplish nothing unless millions of people are standing behind him or her."

Watch the full interview:
http://vimeo.com/110546752

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/10/31/sanders-only-if-millions-and-millions-rise-can-progressive-agenda-win

Moyers and Bernie, Two of the Greatest!

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Sanders: Only If 'Millions and Millions' Rise Up, Can Progressive Agenda Win (Original Post) adirondacker Oct 2014 OP
If we demand better, we can have it. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #1
YES! +1 [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2014 #8
I love Bernie, but I'm a political pessimist. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #2
That was kinda my thought. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #3
I share your pessimism, and I think we will have to depend a lot on the youth. adirondacker Oct 2014 #4
I've been depending on demographic changes Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #5
i believe the youth can do it! hopemountain Oct 2014 #16
A pessimist = informed optimist. nt DocMac Oct 2014 #19
That movement is going to have to happen or we are screwed. stillwaiting Oct 2014 #6
But the 2008 Presidential campaign proved that we can do it! Maedhros Oct 2014 #9
! +1000. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #10
+1! Excellent post. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #13
If everyone who purported to believe in Liberal and Progressive values Maedhros Oct 2014 #15
I bet the coach that came up with that had a solid record of winning. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #20
Agreed and it's time to make the demands clear. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #18
Tell It Bernie! colsohlibgal Oct 2014 #7
otherwise it's just an electoral version of a Walmart job--line up, legitimate MisterP Oct 2014 #11
Well said, MisterP...exploitation, indeed. Jefferson23 Oct 2014 #17
Bernie is the King of Common Sense! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #12
"Moyers and Bernie, Two of the Greatest!" Yes they are! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #14
So what would it cost to begin to coordinate a 50 state grass roots effort? What did jtuck004 Nov 2014 #21
"Could be a hell of a party" adirondacker Nov 2014 #22

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. I love Bernie, but I'm a political pessimist.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:58 PM
Oct 2014

Saying 'only if millions and millions rise up' equates to 'we're screwed' as far as I can see. I hope I'm wrong.

(Slight edit to title to be more specific.)

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
4. I share your pessimism, and I think we will have to depend a lot on the youth.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:00 PM
Oct 2014

There may be a glimmer of "Hope" ahead.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. I've been depending on demographic changes
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014

and praying they come before damage to the environment is irreversible. I'd rather not leave a world behind in which the next extinction event happens in the next couple of hundred years.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
16. i believe the youth can do it!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 05:56 PM
Oct 2014

but not by themselves. it can be done! in my state - oregon - independents and green party candidates are not unusual. we'll have to see what the turnout is for this election - but, i think some of us will be pleasantly surprised. lots of work left to be done in the jim crow states.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
6. That movement is going to have to happen or we are screwed.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:21 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:53 PM - Edit history (1)

I often hope that a sustained movement (of millions) can happen which centers in neighborhoods all over the country. Weekly pot luck dinners and organizing missions to further educate the population while making it social and fun.

They are not going to let us turn this country around without a sustained and lasting movement that can be mobilized to demand change often and when needed.

It's a nice dream I have, and I cling to a small hope that it will materialize one day.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
9. But the 2008 Presidential campaign proved that we can do it!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:42 PM
Oct 2014


This scene from Portland was repeated in many venues across the country. Never before had I witnessed such a massive wave of support for a candidate.

It CAN be done. The key is not to piss it away in the name of bipartisan pragmatism.
 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
15. If everyone who purported to believe in Liberal and Progressive values
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 05:44 PM
Oct 2014

turned out for Bernie, we would see similar crowds at his campaign stops.

The only thing preventing it is the conventional "Third Way" wisdom that he is "unelectable." To coin a time-honored coach's truism: Whether you say you can, or say you can't, you're absolutely right.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
7. Tell It Bernie!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:29 PM
Oct 2014

Love Bernie and he's right about Obama. I believed the progressive talk from Obama in 2008 then boom, here comes people like Rahm Emmanuel and Larry Summers into his inner circle. The old bait and switch once more. I voted against Romney in 2012 way more than for Obama - and I'm tired of choosing who will do the least harm rather than for someone I believe in strongly.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. otherwise it's just an electoral version of a Walmart job--line up, legitimate
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 05:12 PM
Oct 2014

an uncaring political stratum with your votes and sweat, go home, get betrayed, and get told it was because you didn't give them enough votes and sweat, repeat in 2 years

if it's not representative and/or participatory, then it's exploitation even if it's in star-spangled drag or nicely bluewashed

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
21. So what would it cost to begin to coordinate a 50 state grass roots effort? What did
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 02:05 AM
Nov 2014

the Kochs spend? It's certainly do-able. Wonder if any of the people who are financiers on Shark Tank would like to do something to change the world, not just sell more beads and buttons? Maybe find ways to provide opportunities this miserly government won't?

He's right. If a progressive agenda has any chance it will take millions of people, organized in their homes apartments and at their jobs apartments, learning from the models of the successful efforts that proceeded it, and insisting that the government be run for them, not the corporations and banks.

When you have millions of people, you have options. But need a small, funded, org that can map out a strategy and begin to train field folks to go to work.

A goal to decease Citizens United is great to organize a 50 state effort around. Figure out how to include everyone, (Millenials have no money and a bunch of debt, 10,000 people a day are retiring with 401K's that average $25,000 - they will be broke in a few years, or the first time one breaks a leg. Could be they might find common ground between young and old - against the banksters and corporations that hold them both in servitude? Maybe...)

Could be a hell of a party. I mean fun type, not other political party.






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