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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:55 PM Nov 2014

Here to Stay: Why the New Republican Congress Can't Gut Obamacare

By Maggie Fox

Republicans may have promised to repeal or at least do a big makeover of Obamacare now that they control both the House and the Senate, but most experts believe it’s lip service only.

The 2010 Affordable Care Act is in full force across the country, with internet-based health insurance exchanges up and running, expanded Medicaid in 28 states and strict new requirements for health insurers. Here are five reasons the GOP-led Congress won’t be able to change much.

The veto.

This is the big one: President Barack Obama still has veto power. Republicans may have a majority in the Senate, but they don’t have the 60 seats needed to override a Democratic-led filibuster or a presidential veto. And Obama’s not going to allow his signature piece of legislation to be gutted.

They like it.

Republicans actually like a lot about Obamacare. It’s great business for health insurance companies, which in turn give plenty of money to Republicans. Republicans have also always agreed that more Americans need to be covered by health insurance. They just haven’t always agreed on how to get there.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/here-stay-why-new-republican-congress-cant-gut-obamacare-n243711

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Here to Stay: Why the New Republican Congress Can't Gut Obamacare (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2014 OP
There's a fair chance the Supreme Court will do it for them. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1
I think SCOTUS has already clued in on that. cprise Nov 2014 #2
Yes, I know, but it hasn't been heard yet. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #3
More than fair, it's guaranteed. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #7
#2 big insurance will NEVER let heritage care be taken away Doctor_J Nov 2014 #4
The GOP claims to want "free market" health insurance jmowreader Nov 2014 #5
The Supreme Court will gut it for them. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #6

cprise

(8,445 posts)
2. I think SCOTUS has already clued in on that.
Sat Nov 8, 2014, 11:22 PM
Nov 2014

(See their announcement from the day after the election...)

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. #2 big insurance will NEVER let heritage care be taken away
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:15 AM
Nov 2014

Their lobbyists will not let anyone turn off the half trillion dollar per year spigot. Get real

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
5. The GOP claims to want "free market" health insurance
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 08:34 AM
Nov 2014

The story goes like this: The Republicans want health insurance to be sold across state lines. Y'see, there are states where health insurance is cheap, like Hawaii, and ones where it's expensive, like Pennsylvania. If people in Pennsylvania could only buy their health insurance from companies in Hawaii, everyone would be happy!

The reality is a little different: Insurance companies don't charge people in Pennsylvania more than they charge people in Hawaii because they hate Pennsylvanians. It's because Pennsylvanians dig coal, make steel and have THREE kinds of Spam, not just one! It's more expensive to treat people in PA than in HI, so PA residents get charged more. But don't worry, if health insurance companies were allowed to sell across state lines the companies would all move to PA anyway.

I know: "What about auto insurance companies? They sell across state lines!" They do...but if you were to fly from Seattle to North Carolina and buy a new car at Dale Earnhardt Chevrolet (people do this), the F&I manager's first act would be to pull her rate book out of the desk drawer and flip straight to the Seattle page. I lived at three different addresses in Fayetteville and paid three different insurance rates. Same town, but different rates. Figure that shit out.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. The Supreme Court will gut it for them.
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 10:11 AM
Nov 2014

The ACA, as a national policy framework, will die next year. Guaranteed.

What will be left is a two-tier system--the blue state health care system, and the red state system.

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