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muriel_volestrangler

(101,307 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:13 AM Nov 2014

Athens 1944: Britain’s dirty secret

When 28 civilians were killed in Athens, it wasn’t the Nazis who were to blame, it was the British. Ed Vulliamy and Helena Smith reveal how Churchill’s shameful decision to turn on the partisans who had fought on our side in the war sowed the seeds for the rise of the far right in Greece today

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Britain’s logic was brutal and perfidious: Prime minister Winston Churchill considered the influence of the Communist Party within the resistance movement he had backed throughout the war – the National Liberation Front, EAM – to have grown stronger than he had calculated, sufficient to jeopardise his plan to return the Greek king to power and keep Communism at bay. So he switched allegiances to back the supporters of Hitler against his own erstwhile allies.
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The morning of Sunday 3 December was a sunny one, as several processions of Greek republicans, anti-monarchists, socialists and communists wound their way towards Syntagma Square. Police cordons blocked their way, but several thousand broke through; as they approached the square, a man in military uniform shouted: “Shoot the bastards!” The lethal fusillade – from Greek police positions atop the parliament building and British headquarters in the Grande Bretagne hotel – lasted half an hour. By noon, a second crowd of demonstrators entered the square, until it was jammed with 60,000 people. After several hours, a column of British paratroops cleared the square; but the Battle of Athens had begun, and Churchill had his war.
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On 5 December, Lt Gen Scobie imposed martial law and the following day ordered the aerial bombing of the working-class Metz quarter. “British and government forces,” writes anthropologist Neni Panourgia in her study of families in that time, “having at their disposal heavy armament, tanks, aircraft and a disciplined army, were able to make forays into the city, burning and bombing houses and streets and carving out segments of the city… The German tanks had been replaced by British ones, the SS and Gestapo officers by British soldiers.” The house belonging to actor Mimis Fotopoulos, she writes, was burned out with a portrait of Churchill above the fireplace.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-secret

Shameful. I had no idea the British had directly attacked the Greek resistance. And it set the stage for the Greek civil war, the junta a couple of decades later, and the extremist neo-Nazis that still exist there.
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Athens 1944: Britain’s dirty secret (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 OP
Damn PatSeg Nov 2014 #1
It's possible to be both at the same time. unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #5
Oh I agree PatSeg Nov 2014 #6
Yep. Washington and Jefferson were racist slaveholders, for example. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #7
But it's actually pretty damn hard, *beyond a certain point*, unless..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #8
read what he did to ireland. he is shit in my house and not in a good way roguevalley Nov 2014 #9
The fact that the British didn't have PatSeg Dec 2014 #10
If there hadn't been a war PatSeg Dec 2014 #11
One thing a reading of true history will do is to open your eyes TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #2
Yes, but... smiley Nov 2014 #3
I had never heard of this A Little Weird Nov 2014 #4

PatSeg

(47,405 posts)
6. Oh I agree
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 05:22 PM
Nov 2014

I've felt that way about him for a long time. I just never thought he'd be quite this dickish.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
8. But it's actually pretty damn hard, *beyond a certain point*, unless.....
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 08:17 PM
Nov 2014

one is either a tragic fool, or one REALLY tries to be a hypocrite. Churchill was the former, I believe.....doesn't really excuse this, though.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
9. read what he did to ireland. he is shit in my house and not in a good way
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 11:49 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:40 AM - Edit history (1)

War mongering bull sitting bag of wind. Best thing Britain did after the war was throw him out.

PatSeg

(47,405 posts)
10. The fact that the British didn't have
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:39 AM
Dec 2014

much use for him before the war or after it was always an indication to me that something was lacking there. His brand of conservatism is generally popular during wartime. I find it interesting that so many conservatives in this country have used him as a role model when trying to convince the public to go to war. Anti war politicians are then compared to Neville Chamberlain.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
2. One thing a reading of true history will do is to open your eyes
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 11:03 AM
Nov 2014

There are few angels in this world. 25,000 people killed in the fire bombing of Dresden, 80,000 people killed in Hiroshima and 73,884 people killed in Nagasaki. 40,000 people killed in the London Blitz this number not counting those killed in other parts of England and the starving of Ukrainians by Stalin, the killing fields of Pol Pot and the more than 6,000,000 killed in NAZI camps.

This is just modern history. We've been killing each other with or without reason since time immemorial.

smiley

(1,432 posts)
3. Yes, but...
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 11:10 AM
Nov 2014

Churchill initially supported these demonstrators, then turned on them when he realized their populist agenda had grown too strong.

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