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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 06:53 AM Apr 2015

Making the Rich and Powerful Work for Everyone by Ian Welsh

http://www.ianwelsh.net/making-the-rich-and-powerful-work-for-everyone/

The philosopher John Rawls suggested that the only ethical society is one which we design before we know what position we will hold in it. If you don’t know whether you’ll be born the child of janitor or a billionaire, black or white, you may view social justice differently than when you know that your parents both went to Harvard or Oxford...Rawls’s point is just in the sense that though none of us choose our parents, very few of us are able to see the world except through our own eyes. What I am going to suggest is something different: A society works best if it treats people the same, no matter what position they hold. This is hardly a new position. The idea that everyone should be treated equally is ancient and many a war has been fought over it. But despite a fair bit of progress, we don’t really understand what equality means, how it works, and why it works.

Let’s have an example. Based on international testing, at the time of this writing, the Finnish education system is arguably the best in the world. Its students do better than those of any other nation.

What is interesting about the Finnish school system, though, is this: When they decided to change how it worked, they did not set out to try and make it the best in the world. Instead their goal was to make it so that everyone was treated the same. Their goal was not excellence, their goal was equality. Somehow, along the way, and very much to their surprise, it also became arguably the best school system in the world...There are a number of reasons for this, the main one being a well-established fact: People who are treated as lesser don’t perform as well and are less healthy–even after you take into account other factors.

But another reason is that if you are rich or powerful, you can’t buy your child a better education. Testing results between schools are not made public and the very few private schools are not allowed to use selective admissions. In a system where your child will be treated the same as every other child, you must make sure that every child receives an excellent education, otherwise your child may not receive one.

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Making the Rich and Powerful Work for Everyone by Ian Welsh (Original Post) Demeter Apr 2015 OP
Sounds right to me rock Apr 2015 #1
Yes. The present system is tremendously wasteful of human talents that we desperately need. bemildred Apr 2015 #2
Though I haven't read the entire article ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #3

rock

(13,218 posts)
1. Sounds right to me
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 09:30 AM
Apr 2015

But remember out politicians deathly fear an educated society, most of which would not vote for them.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. Yes. The present system is tremendously wasteful of human talents that we desperately need.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 09:41 AM
Apr 2015

We are all born helpless and dependant, and if not well and truly cared for, may never leave that state.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. Though I haven't read the entire article ...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:24 PM
Apr 2015

I have to say, I do not strive for a world were "everyone is treated EQUALLY", as that can be a savage world ... I'd far rather live in a world were everyone was treated EQUITABLY", i.e., where everyone was treated according to their needs.

For example ...

In a system where your child will be treated the same as every other child, you must make sure that every child receives an excellent education, otherwise your child may not receive one.


Does that mean everyone gets the same "excellent" text book written in braille, because there are sightless students in the school?
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