Two telling responses to the Oregon shootings
OCTOBER 2, 2015
... President Barack Obama ... was exasperated ... Each time we see one of these mass shootings, our thoughts and prayers are not enough, he said. Its not enough. It does not capture the heartache and grief and anger that we should feel. It does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted someplace else in America ...
Its a horrible thing to behold, horrible, Trump said, but he accompanied that thought with a verbal shrug. Theres no way to institutionalize everyone whos mentally ill, Trump said, so some of them are inevitably going to shoot people. Youre going to have these things happen, he said. Fellow Republican candidate Jeb Bush, when asked about the Oregon shootings, said incredibly: Look stuff happens ...
... Quaint as it may sound, we need to demand that our leaders heed what a significant majority of Americans are telling them in polls.
That means along with investing in mental health treatment and awareness, Congress should pass tougher background checks for gun sales. It means removing obstacles so that states can share information on mental health issues of prospective gun buyers. It means a ban on military style assault weapons, and it means closing loopholes allowing straw purchasers to pass background checks before passing guns to those who cant ...
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article37394304.html
fredamae
(4,458 posts)Governors/MSM/NRA Always telling Us "Today Is Not The Day"!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)This Oregonians one county over from that campus agrees that the day of such a horror is not the day for politicians to opinion on their own intentions. It is ghoulish to do so. This is not an East Coast State. We do not have a need for bluster and showmanship.
Each of those three Democrats said that after the mourning there is work to be done, that Congress has to take action, that the people of Oregon must take action.
But we here in Oregon do not expect nor desire that they should all show up on a town in shock and then grandstand about anything. The day is about the people. Those officials all have ties to that town, personal relationships with people there. Merkley has family there I know, DeFazio has represented this district since 1987, he's a founding member of the Progressive Caucus.
So as they say in politics, you don't vote for any of those people anyway. You are not the person they are speaking to. I am.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)"So as they say in politics, you don't vote for any of those people anyway. You are not the person they are speaking to. I am." Then don't say it: I can't vote for DeFazio...but Would if I Could. I did Vote For Merkley. I Did Vote for Kate as SoS.
You infer that Oregonians cannot "walk and chew gum at the same time".
I cannot agree with your sentiment. We have heard our pols utter these words After every mass killing. As I recall....those words were first uttered by the NRA.
I Lived in Douglas Co for a good portion of my childhood. I am familiar. People want action. The problem Is we always "wait for a better time" and by the time that "better time" comes along...folks have "forgotten" and waiting for a "better time" is replaced with "well, we have Other priorities right now". IF that better time had Ever arrived in OR....it would have been at Least-After the Mall Shooting..imo.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)BTW, despite the fact that a poll found 90 percent of Americans support universal background checks, including 74 percent of NRA members, NRA leadership is against universal background checks.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/apr/04/lee-leffingwell/lee-leffingwell-says-polls-show-90-percent-america/
I'm not making excuses for the ridiculous statements made by Trump and Jeb Bush,
IMO, they are both corporate lackeys who fear the power of the NRA.