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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:49 AM Feb 2012

Church Bishops Are True Blue In Their Support Of Viagra: ‘It’s About Procreation, Not Sex!

So there is no confusion gentlemen–If you obtain a prescription for that little pleasure pill, you had better be shooting for your young second or third (don’t want to forget Newt) wife’s egg and saying a few prayers that you are around for your child’s high school graduation (at your age) or it had better be linked to some identifiable medical problem.

You know the kind of medical problems–like those associated with women and their use of birth control pills to control medical conditions such as endometriosis, migraine headaches, acne, menstrual pain and cramps–but different because the Bishops aren’t considering those female problems to be ‘covered’ medical issues.

Whoa, wait a minute! What medical condition is associated with an inability to have an erection except the inability to have an erection?

Bottom line—Erections good. Birth control pills bad. Does it surprise anyone that a group of old white men that purportedly aren’t having sex with anyone, including themselves, are more concerned with penises than with womens’ health issues?
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02/14/church-bishops-are-true-blue-in-their-support-of-viagra-its-about-procreation-not-sex/

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$$$$ $$$ $$$$$ $$$$ $$$$$$$, $$$$$, and $$$$$$$! Bozita Feb 2012 #1
OK, since you and some other people on DU don't understand this. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #2
No, it's real and it's not funny Warpy Feb 2012 #3
Depression is actually the reason for Viagra. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #4
Thank you for standing up for the little guy who can't stand up for himself. nt DCKit Feb 2012 #5
I'm wondering whether Viagra will cause an increase in the life expectancy JDPriestly Feb 2012 #8
Those are real problems fifthoffive Feb 2012 #7
They need the blue pill Confusious Feb 2012 #6
Really? Then, do they support vascetomies? I bet there is coverage for those! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #9
It's OK to help dirty old men get their dicks up, but BC is evil. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #10

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. OK, since you and some other people on DU don't understand this.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:53 AM
Feb 2012

Here are some of the physical conditions and events that can cause erectile dysfunction. And, yes, it is a real problem for many men and not a joke.

Diseases such as diabetes, high blood pressure, heart or thyroid conditions, poor blood flow, depression, or nervous system disorders (such as multiple sclerosis or Parkinson's disease)
Medicines, including blood pressure medications (especially beta-blockers), heart medications (such as digoxin), some peptic ulcer medications, sleeping pills, and antidepressants
Nerve damage from prostate surgery
. . . .
Spinal cord injury
Stress, fear, anxiety, or anger
. . . .

I'm leaving out some like alcohol abuse.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003164.htm

This is not something to be ridiculed, and I see a lot of ridicule on this topic on DU.

Warpy

(111,152 posts)
3. No, it's real and it's not funny
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:12 AM
Feb 2012

However, contrasted against the lifesaving nature of pregnancy spacing and family planning, it is infuriating that these pills are covered without question while something as vital to women as birth control is not.

Pregnancy and childbirth might be natural conditions, but they are not without significant risk to health and life.

Not being able to engage in coitus is frustrating to a male, but it is not a fatal condition.

This is the reason for the fury over covering things like Viagra while fighting against women's drugs tooth and nail.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. Depression is actually the reason for Viagra.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 05:06 AM
Feb 2012

But, I agree that birth control pills should be covered without question. This is just interference by the religious right and Catholic Church.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. I'm wondering whether Viagra will cause an increase in the life expectancy
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:32 PM
Feb 2012

of some men. I don't know, but I suspect it might. No, I'm not a man. No, I don't use Viagra. But this is not difficult to figure out if you look at all the widows, all the lonely women who wish their husbands had lived longer, had not given up in life.

The same Catholic, Puritan morality about sex that makes couples feel guilty about using birth control and taking responsibility for the size of their family causes people to giggle at the thought of intimacy between older people.

Yet physical intimacy (not necessarily sex, but also sex) is essential to most human and animal life.

I read Desmond Morris's "Intimate Behaviour" years ago and was very impressed by it.

Twenty-five years after it first caused a splash in the scientific and literary worlds, Intimate Behavior is still one of the best chronicles of human intimacy. With a masterful and entertaining eye, Desmond Morris, bestselling author of The Naked Ape and The Human Zoo, analyzes the roots of human intimacy, from the handshake through the twelve stages that people pass through on their way to the total sexual embrace. Morris contends that the months just before and after birth are when the seeds of intimacy are planted and are critical to development. From the loving attention of the mother, the child learns and responds with intimate gestures of his or her own. He argues that human adults follow certain patterns of intimate behaviour that are based on these infant experiences for their entire lives. In addition to sexual intimacy, Morris discussed social intimacy, intimacy substitutes, object intimacy, and self-intimacy. Complete with a new preface by the author, Intimate Behavior is a provocative view of humans need to touch and to be touched, to love and to be loved. At a crucial moment, a gentle embrace can still do more good than a thousand earnest discussions. Despite all our social and technological advances, the primeval body language of love still remains the most potent force we have for the expression of feelings of comfort and caring. Desmond Morris, from his new Preface

http://www.amazon.com/Intimate-behaviour-Desmond-Morris/dp/B00005W7E8

There is, no doubt, a lot of more recent research on this issue.

I might be wrong, but I believe that Viagra is only available by prescription. If I am right about that, a lot of the concerns about the abuse of it are unfounded. There is, of course, always, a danger of the abuse of a prescription drug.

fifthoffive

(382 posts)
7. Those are real problems
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:59 PM
Feb 2012

But viagra doesn't fix any of them. Just allows an erection in spite of them, and sometimes at great risk.

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