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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:40 PM Feb 2012

Today, the Greek people are going hungry to protect a rigged $32 trillion Wall Street casino.

The Midas Touch Gone Bad

In an article in The Observer (UK) on February 11th titled “The Mathematical Equation That Caused the Banks to Crash,” Ian Stewart wrote of the Black-Scholes equation that opened up the world of derivatives:

The financial sector called it the Midas Formula and saw it as a recipe for making everything turn to gold. But the markets forgot how the story of King Midas ended.

As Aristotle told this ancient Greek tale, Midas died of hunger as a result of his vain prayer for the golden touch. Today, the Greek people are going hungry to protect a rigged $32 trillion Wall Street casino. Avizius writes:

The money made by selling these derivatives is directly responsible for the huge profits and bonuses we now see on Wall Street. The money masters have reaped obscene profits from this scheme, but now they live in fear that it will all unravel and the gravy train will end. What these banks have done is to leverage the system to such an extreme, that the entire house of cards is threatened by a small country of only 11 million people. Greece could bring the entire world economy down. If a default was declared, the resulting payouts would start a chain reaction that would cause widespread worldwide bank failures, making the Lehman collapse look small by comparison.http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/02/20

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Today, the Greek people are going hungry to protect a rigged $32 trillion Wall Street casino. (Original Post) midnight Feb 2012 OP
Thanks CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #1
Default Greece Default! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #2
The comments are also worth reading. /nt GeorgeGist Feb 2012 #3
Really! Check this one out! KansDem Feb 2012 #5
here is the article by Summers, and I also include a link to the latest BIS derivative report stockholmer Feb 2012 #6
Goldman Sachs, hedge funds we know and some we've probably never heard of... DCKit Feb 2012 #4
How CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #8
This is why I am holding my breath Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #7
 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
1. Thanks
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:54 PM
Feb 2012

Best easy to understand explanation I have seen. Also explains why Corzine is not in prison yet. The Greek people should tell them No Thanks! I bet they would parachute money in to them to avoid exposure. All these criminals should be in prison.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
5. Really! Check this one out!
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:23 PM
Feb 2012
'Put together, the above-ground derivatives market plus the underground, off-balance-sheet derivatives market total an astounding $1.4 quadrillion (that’s $1400 trillion), according to Graham Summers at Seeking Alpha.

To put that number into some kind of perspective, Summers says that the derivatives market is:

40 times the world’s total stock market
10 times the value of every stock and every bond on the planet
23 times the world’s gross domestic product
At present Bank of America holds derivatives worth approximately $75 trillion, while JPMorgan Chase (already a bank covered by the FDIC) holds another $79 trillion. By Gary North’s estimate, the banks considered too big to fail hold at least $250 trillion in derivatives."

So when a bank goes down it may open up the derivative losses to be covered by the USA taxpayer and the FDIC.

The problem is there is no possible way a bank, the taxpayer or the financial system itself can cover those losses.

It will end the monetary system as we know it -



 

stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
6. here is the article by Summers, and I also include a link to the latest BIS derivative report
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:56 PM
Feb 2012
http://seekingalpha.com/article/198197-why-derivatives-caused-financial-crisis

http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy1111.pdf


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Is important to note that in 2008, the BIS, IMF, ISDA, US FED, World Bank, ECB, etc etc, all went from a 'mark to market' form of calculating derivative notional value to a 'market to model' method that vastly UNDERSTATES the total notional value.

I have been covering this ever since I joined DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2387745

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2121255

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1389103 (270 plus comments, a real battle on that one, LOL, I miss DU2!!)
 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
4. Goldman Sachs, hedge funds we know and some we've probably never heard of...
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:44 PM
Feb 2012

the bailed out banks and others are up to their eyeballs in this mess. It all boils down to unregulated, should'a been illegal financial instruments.

This is a case of attempted, first degree economic homicide - with more to come.

From Thursday:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101614616

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
8. How
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 08:24 AM
Feb 2012

Did they get the private bond holders to take a 47% loss rather than collect on the CDS insurance?

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
7. This is why I am holding my breath
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:00 AM
Feb 2012

It seems this situation remains on a razors edge. I have made a bigger garden this year. I think anything can happen. It is unsettling.

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