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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:54 PM Feb 2012

Republicans Have Awoken A Sleeping Giant And She Is Furious


Republicans Have Awoken A Sleeping Giant And She Is Furious

The true motivation for a war is not always clear in spite of proclamations by a nation or its leaders. The war in Iraq’s purpose is still a mystery to many Americans because of the ever-changing goals proffered by the Bush administration and there are parallels with the current conservative war on women. On the surface, it appears that evangelicals are on a tear to restrict women’s right to choose their reproductive health, and although that is one of their primary goals, there is another pernicious motivation many Americans ignore even though it is obvious to women. Over the past couple of weeks, there have been important clues to what the conservative’s endgame is and although contraception, abortion rights, and women’s health issues are at the forefront, it is male dominance that drives the assaults.

When evangelicals targeted the Girl Scouts for not being aligned with the message of the church and for a perceived, but fallacious alliance between World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS) and Planned Parenthood, they were not just assailing contraception. One Republican from Indiana claimed Girl Scouts “promoted homosexual lifestyles” and although there is no truth to the Planned Parenthood connection or promoting homosexuality, it is stunning that the claims were made in the first place. It is sad, but an accusation from a male Republican carries weight with pathetic evangelicals and the effect was evident when a 10-year-old Girl Scout in Virginia experienced a woman who told her, “We don’t support Girl Scouts because they support abortion, which kills babies.” The young scout told her mother “Mommy, something creepy happened to me” and true to her age, had no knowledge of abortion and was upset to be associated with baby killers.

The assault on Girl Scouts shows the level extremist evangelicals and conservatives are willing to go to in their push to impose the church’s edicts on women regardless of their age. The false accusation against Girl Scouts started a movement among evangelicals to remove their daughters from Girl Scouts and enroll them in the American Heritage Girls Christian organization whose goal is the dedication of the adult leadership to Christian ministry through this organization with these girls. The group’s mission statement is character development for young women that embraces Christian values and encourages family involvement. Christian values is code for obedient women subservient to the male-dominant patriarchy that controls this country, and Republican’s record of restricting women’s role in society falls in line with Christian values. It is not coincidence that the assault on women starts with poor women and in the case of Girl Scouts, very, very young women.

The Republicans fighting to restrict access to contraception regardless of President Obama’s compromise giving religious organizations an exemption is aimed at lower-income women, but no woman is safe. This ridiculous movement to ban contraception for all women is more about control than imposing the Catholic ban on birth control. It is noteworthy that Rick Santorum promises that if elected president, he will embark on a preaching campaign to ban contraception to force all women to stay home, slave for their man, and produce more little evangelical extremists. It is bad enough evangelicals are promoting this Dark Ages philosophy, but the Republicans in Congress have allowed evangelical religious leaders to affect legislation controlling women.

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/en/woman-sleeping-giant



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Republicans Have Awoken A Sleeping Giant And She Is Furious (Original Post) Tx4obama Feb 2012 OP
Perhaps it is time to remove all men in offices Thinkingabout Feb 2012 #1
You make a good point. Often men are ready for war, hard to work with and many are RKP5637 Feb 2012 #3
And women are all pure and peaceful? Oh, Please. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #11
You missed the point Caretha Feb 2012 #13
And what was that? Odin2005 Feb 2012 #14
You threw a strawman Caretha Feb 2012 #17
You said men are "ready for war and hard to work with" Odin2005 Feb 2012 #20
"You said men are "ready for war and hard to work with" Caretha Feb 2012 #21
oops, I got posters mixed up! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #23
Now since you have admitted Caretha Feb 2012 #24
RKP5637 made no mention about reproductive choices in her post. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #25
I'm not referring to her post Caretha Feb 2012 #26
Oh, i totally agree with the OP Odin2005 Feb 2012 #27
You made an oopsie as well. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #29
Definitely!!! LOL RKP5637 Feb 2012 #16
Good heavens! MrBlueSky Feb 2012 #40
The old fart's, high on Viagra, and their( penis ego) crunch60 Feb 2012 #46
I still think this is a back-door approach to repeal Roe vs. Wade...n/t monmouth Feb 2012 #2
They don't really care about Roe or abortion jeff47 Feb 2012 #7
"They care about uppity broads being put in their rightful place." saras Feb 2012 #33
indeed. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #36
Truth. CrispyQ Feb 2012 #38
It's about keeping us barefoot and pregnant enough to steal our rights away & keep us indentured eShirl Feb 2012 #31
"God created women to be the servants of men." greiner3 Feb 2012 #32
"They think God created women to be the servants of men." CrispyQ Feb 2012 #39
"The female is the slave of the slave." SunSeeker Feb 2012 #42
We clearly have the Taliban in this country in the form evangelicals. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #4
+1 n/t Hotler Feb 2012 #37
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #5
JUst trying to live up to the execptation of needing so many post QA_IT_Pro Feb 2012 #6
whut? Phlem Feb 2012 #8
it's to keep repuke trolls out Skittles Feb 2012 #9
It's one of the best rules DU has!! Control-Z Feb 2012 #43
You're not posting. You're just taking up space, which is an insult to every sincere DUer here. patrice Feb 2012 #45
Fuck Republicans. Last straw fuckers. MichiganVote Feb 2012 #10
The nuts really believe that most people agree with them. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #12
The R's are doing the best campaigning for dems that dems could ever hope for!!! RKP5637 Feb 2012 #19
I predict Caretha Feb 2012 #15
I think they will. IMO this derisive behavior toward women will bring out a lot to vote. RKP5637 Feb 2012 #18
Truly, this is the most shocking misstep they have ever made. Ever. byronius Feb 2012 #22
+++1 kristopher Feb 2012 #30
+(10^100)^(10^100) saras Feb 2012 #34
The Disturbing Part DallasNE Feb 2012 #28
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2012 #35
yes she is and it's about time. I'm glad the pukes made their hate so clear BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #41
& one of the saddest things about it is that that woman in Virginia who said that to the Girl Scout patrice Feb 2012 #44
What is such a pisser is that all that RW money seems to trump human rights-- felix_numinous Feb 2012 #47

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Perhaps it is time to remove all men in offices
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:07 PM
Feb 2012

Women will be the only ones voting, all women Congress, and only women will qualify to run for any political office. We see the ruin of men, let the wiser sex clean it up.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
3. You make a good point. Often men are ready for war, hard to work with and many are
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:13 PM
Feb 2012

absolute asses. Look throughout history, men have eventually F'ed up and destroyed most things they've tried to do. Now, they're working on the US to take it down.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
17. You threw a strawman
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:15 PM
Feb 2012

into the debate. No one said that "women are all pure and peaceful".

I really don't understand how you related that to a woman's choice concerning reproductive rights.

Perhaps you'd care to explain.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
20. You said men are "ready for war and hard to work with"
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:32 PM
Feb 2012

Implying that if women were in charge there would be no wars and workplaces would be a joy.

This notion that women are morally superior than men is just the same old sexist stereotypes about the "fairer sex", just spun in a different way.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
21. "You said men are "ready for war and hard to work with"
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 11:59 PM
Feb 2012

I didn't say that. But keep it up and you will prove the point of the quote.

Have a nice day.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
24. Now since you have admitted
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:11 AM
Feb 2012

you made an "oopsie", perhaps you would like to answer my reply to your mis-direction post.

I will repeat - your first post responded to the OP with, and I quote "And women are all pure and peaceful? Oh, Please."

What does that have to do with women's reproductive choices? Please stay on topic and answer if you are able.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
25. RKP5637 made no mention about reproductive choices in her post.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:17 AM
Feb 2012
You make a good point. Often men are ready for war, hard to work with and many are absolute asses. Look throughout history, men have eventually F'ed up and destroyed most things they've tried to do. Now, they're working on the US to take it down.
 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
26. I'm not referring to her post
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:24 AM
Feb 2012

If there is a mix-up in communication, I apologize.

My point is that female reproductive choices should not be left to government or legistlation.

I think that this little side-bar between us has gotten off track.

Do you believe what I've stated regarding the original op is correct or do you disagree?

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
29. You made an oopsie as well.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:02 AM
Feb 2012

Odin wasn't replying to the OP, he (I assume 'he') was replying to RKP5637.

And his response is quite understandable, given the content of the post he was responding to.

MrBlueSky

(107 posts)
40. Good heavens!
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 01:38 PM
Feb 2012

"We see the ruin of men, let the wiser sex clean it up."

Please spare me of the hatred towards the male gender. Pardon me for maintaining an XY chromosome on my 23rd chromosomal pair.

Please remember that not all men are like those in the culture war. Some of us guys DO support free contraception, expanded daycare and welfare/WIC, etc. etc. etc.

I do agree with you that more women need to be in Congress, White House, state legislatures, etc. What is fair would be for about 50.5% of leaders be women, their proportion to the populace.

But it is quite unfair of you and the OP to assume that, if you are a man, you are inherently in support of male dominance. Some of us guys actually prefer to work with the ladies.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
46. The old fart's, high on Viagra, and their( penis ego)
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:32 PM
Feb 2012

(not Santorum lol) are the one's that need to be removed. They hate women's sexuality, everything that has to do with pleasure. Out of touch completely.
Like Santorum, they only appeal to the right wing Evangelicals. Santorum's platform is the closest thing to fascism I have heard in many years

But where are all the progressive Democrats , someone to give balance and put up a good fight against the loony repubiks. I personally don't care if it's male or female, just advocate for us, that's why we elected you!.

GO OWS! You are the bright spot in this desolate landscape, you are paving the way for for a better future for the 99%. It's going to take time and lot's of work. Take it from an old hippie. Love ya all.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. They don't really care about Roe or abortion
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 08:41 PM
Feb 2012

If your goal was to reduce or eliminate abortions, what would you do?

* Easy-to-get/Free contraception available to everyone so only women who want to become pregnant do so.
* Comprehensive Sex Ed for everyone in school, so they know how to use contraception
* Easy-to-get/Free daycare so people with children can easily work to support them
* Increased funding to programs like WIC so that no child is unaffordable

What do "pro-life" people support?
* No contraception
* No Sex Ed
* No daycare
* Cuts to WIC and welfare

They don't care about abortion. They don't care about Roe. They care about upity broads being put in their rightful place. "The poor little babies" is just marketing.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
33. "They care about uppity broads being put in their rightful place."
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 09:34 AM
Feb 2012

Simple, clear, concise, accurate.

Now can we PLEASE stop pretending that there's some more benign explanation? They've all been ruled out by the facts.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
36. indeed.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 11:15 AM
Feb 2012

AND, they don't care about any church, really.
All this church stuff is used as a another weapon for male dominance.
Witness the staunch resistance to women leaders of churches.

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
38. Truth.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:13 PM
Feb 2012
They don't care about abortion. They don't care about Roe. They care about upity broads being put in their rightful place. "The poor little babies" is just marketing.


eShirl

(18,490 posts)
31. It's about keeping us barefoot and pregnant enough to steal our rights away & keep us indentured
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 08:25 AM
Feb 2012

They think God created women to be the servants of men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_Is_the_Nigger_of_the_World

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
39. "They think God created women to be the servants of men."
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:22 PM
Feb 2012

When really, they created God & the whole patriarchal ideology, to enslave others.

Thanks for the wiki link. I wasn't aware of that song or the controversy surrounding it. Now I'm going to find it & listen to it. I'll bet my husband has the album in the basement.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
42. "The female is the slave of the slave."
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
Feb 2012

But John Lennon said it in a way that caught people's attention. Truer words were never spoken.

Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

 

QA_IT_Pro

(17 posts)
6. JUst trying to live up to the execptation of needing so many post
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:27 PM
Feb 2012

This is a bad rule for this site....I can't start a subject matter because I haven't posted xxxx amount so time??

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
8. whut?
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 09:59 PM
Feb 2012

I know I don't have a lot of posts but I had to start somewhere. Are you sure you can't post, maybe you need to post from the group page.

-p

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
43. It's one of the best rules DU has!!
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 03:39 PM
Feb 2012

It helps keep the trolls out. Funny, trolls are pretty much the only ones I've heard complain about it.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
12. The nuts really believe that most people agree with them.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 10:51 PM
Feb 2012

They are in for a rude awakening. Of course they won't learn anything from it, they will just blame an "evil liberal pinko conspiracy" for "flouting the will of Real Americans".

byronius

(7,392 posts)
22. Truly, this is the most shocking misstep they have ever made. Ever.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 12:00 AM
Feb 2012

I deeply, personally hate Republicans. I mean, visceral hatred. Probably because of my varied experiences with what happens when they have had direct authority over me. I was supposed to be one of them -- white male, Southern heritage, Goldwater father -- and that is also probably a reason for my internal rage over their existence. I view them as un-American, dis-cooperative, anti-life, anti-earth, anti-human. Really, I don't think there's any group I hate more than conservative males, regardless of nationality or economic status. I grew up in Saudi Arabia, and I identify Islamic fundamentalism with Christian fundamentalism quite clearly -- interchangeable, except for the language.

But if I were a woman -- if I were a woman right now, in America --

I'd seriously think about serious action to remove them from the possibility of ever having any control over me. Permanently. Forever. Whatever it took.

My daughter is a Girl Scout. Proud of it. And if some yokel opened their trap and insulted her for it, they would find their front door kicked open, and their life in the balance.

I'm a peacenik hippie. But I am also my father's son, and I tend to let him out of me when confronted with That Crap.

I am Woman, hear me roar.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
28. The Disturbing Part
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:02 AM
Feb 2012

Is just how many women "stand by their man" when they say such hateful, degrading things about women. For instance, a recent poll showed female support for Santorum on the upswing in the Republican race. I'm not sure if this was national or just Michigan and Arizona and whether it was just a shift from Gingrich to Santorum, but still.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
41. yes she is and it's about time. I'm glad the pukes made their hate so clear
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 02:19 PM
Feb 2012

it takes a lot to get women to fight together FOR THEIR OWN INTERESTS

This is the tipping point. GOOD!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
44. & one of the saddest things about it is that that woman in Virginia who said that to the Girl Scout
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 04:00 PM
Feb 2012

got a great big cruel BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ off of saying that to that little girl.

Cruel behavior leading to a great buzz that she subsequently shared with her friends as how the "Holy Spirit" had moved her that day.

Sad.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
47. What is such a pisser is that all that RW money seems to trump human rights--
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 05:59 PM
Feb 2012

the people signing up for the RW religious nonsense have truly lost their minds. These people know no bounds, which turns out to be their greatest political mistake--underestimating women--and underestimating how much BS Americans can take!

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