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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:15 PM Feb 2012

I Was a Warehouse Wage Slave

http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/02/mac-mcclelland-free-online-shipping-warehouses-labor

"Don't take anything that happens to you there personally," the woman at the local chamber of commerce says when I tell her that tomorrow I start working at Amalgamated Product Giant Shipping Worldwide Inc. She winks at me. I stare at her for a second.

"What?" I ask. "Why, is somebody going to be mean to me or something?"

She smiles. "Oh, yeah." This town somewhere west of the Mississippi is not big; everyone knows someone or is someone who's worked for Amalgamated. "But look at it from their perspective. They need you to work as fast as possible to push out as much as they can as fast as they can. So they're gonna give you goals, and then you know what? If you make those goals, they're gonna increase the goals. But they'll be yelling at you all the time. It's like the military. They have to break you down so they can turn you into what they want you to be. So they're going to tell you, 'You're not good enough, you're not good enough, you're not good enough,' to make you work harder. Don't say, 'This is the best I can do.' Say, 'I'll try,' even if you know you can't do it. Because if you say, 'This is the best I can do,' they'll let you go. They hire and fire constantly, every day. You'll see people dropping all around you. But don't take it personally and break down or start crying when they yell at you."

Several months prior, I'd reported on an Ohio warehouse where workers shipped products for online retailers under conditions that were surprisingly demoralizing and dehumanizing, even to someone who's spent a lot of time working in warehouses, which I have. And then my editors sat me down. "We want you to go work for Amalgamated Product Giant Shipping Worldwide Inc.," they said. I'd have to give my real name and job history when I applied, and I couldn't lie if asked for any specifics. (I wasn't.) But I'd smudge identifying details of people and the company itself. Anyway, to do otherwise might give people the impression that these conditions apply only to one warehouse or one company. Which they don't.

So I fretted about whether I'd have to abort the application process, like if someone asked me why I wanted the job. But no one did. And though I was kind of excited to trot out my warehouse experience, mainly all I needed to get hired was to confirm 20 or 30 times that I had not been to prison.
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I Was a Warehouse Wage Slave (Original Post) xchrom Feb 2012 OP
just quit a job kinda like that. on assembly line. lately they started using a timer that went off KG Feb 2012 #1
I hope that you move on to much better things soon (if you haven't already), KG. What a nightmare! tropicanarose Feb 2012 #31
Kind of sounds like descriptions of third-world sweat shops. KansDem Feb 2012 #2
Jesus fucking Christ! It's Upton Sinclair's Jungle all over again. OffWithTheirHeads Feb 2012 #3
That sounds familiar. Lugnut Feb 2012 #4
Think about this the next time you order from Amazon. TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #5
+1 xchrom Feb 2012 #6
+2 Auggie Feb 2012 #10
wow.....hard to believe that this is the way things are. tropicanarose Feb 2012 #29
The Atlantic is also covering this story (with a fitting title). Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #7
This American Warehouse Sounds as Bad as Foxconn xchrom Feb 2012 #8
i worked at a place like this. madrchsod Feb 2012 #9
My son said he'd rather be homeless than work there steve2470 Feb 2012 #11
Reads precisely like my experience working for a major delivery service, loading trucks, several patrice Feb 2012 #12
+1 xchrom Feb 2012 #13
A must-read Sienna86 Feb 2012 #14
Both... & more I suspect. Nt xchrom Feb 2012 #15
They don't call them lumpers, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2012 #16
JESUS H CHRIST. EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS lifesbeautifulmagic Feb 2012 #17
And Amazon, formerly fighting sales tax on out-of-state shipments, will now profit from them: Auggie Feb 2012 #18
Jesus. Canuckistanian Feb 2012 #19
I was gonna post that too Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2012 #32
I worked for a temp agency a few years ago Canuckistanian Feb 2012 #47
It also sounds like what I went through at call centers. MarianJack Feb 2012 #20
Most jobs suck, thats why they pay you to come to work..... IamK Feb 2012 #21
sorry...most jobs may be unpleasant ... but they don't abuse you like that. nt xchrom Feb 2012 #22
Wchrom, you are right. Yeah, it is work and they have to pay you to do it, but this is abuse rop tropicanarose Feb 2012 #30
so this kind of treatment of human beings is OK? rurallib Feb 2012 #23
Its a job, its not prison. If you don't like it, leave. IamK Feb 2012 #24
... xchrom Feb 2012 #25
If you don't like it, leave Duer 157099 Feb 2012 #26
truly, unbelievable. Javaman Feb 2012 #33
no it's people leaving places like this that prevent sweat shops from making money.. IamK Feb 2012 #36
what bullshit. if you're in a job like that to begin with -- you probably don't have the money in xchrom Feb 2012 #37
maybe... or your just too lazt to look... could be either... IamK Feb 2012 #38
Too lazy to look ? steve2470 Feb 2012 #40
there it is -- i was waiting for it xchrom Feb 2012 #41
Oh I see, you are a member of the Horatio Alger fan club. Javaman Feb 2012 #48
I've worked in places like that steve2470 Feb 2012 #34
my favorite Che Quotes... IamK Feb 2012 #39
You obviously have no idea what Che stood for steve2470 Feb 2012 #42
your favorite must be 'corporate ass-licker'. --nt xchrom Feb 2012 #43
Sock puppet patrick t. cakes Feb 2012 #45
+1 nt Javaman Feb 2012 #49
Don't end up like Brian. Bertha Venation Feb 2012 #27
stunning, right? nt xchrom Feb 2012 #28
My job has goals like this rosesaylavee Feb 2012 #35
It is really hard to tell the US from a 3rd world country at this point Doctor_J Feb 2012 #44
This is why I keep advocating for mental health evaluations, starting with HR and middle managers Mopar151 Feb 2012 #46

KG

(28,751 posts)
1. just quit a job kinda like that. on assembly line. lately they started using a timer that went off
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:26 PM
Feb 2012

every 6 min. then the new temp hires were starting at more than i was making after 2 years. that was last straw...

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
3. Jesus fucking Christ! It's Upton Sinclair's Jungle all over again.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 01:44 PM
Feb 2012

We really need a fucking revolution.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
4. That sounds familiar.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:07 PM
Feb 2012

Most of the employers around here are warehouses. I hear these kinds of stories all the time.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
9. i worked at a place like this.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:47 PM
Feb 2012

i will say it was`t as bad but close. if you lasted 3 days you were lucky.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
11. My son said he'd rather be homeless than work there
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 04:03 PM
Feb 2012

Needless to say, he'll never work at a place like that unless he has kids to support, etc.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
12. Reads precisely like my experience working for a major delivery service, loading trucks, several
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 05:13 PM
Feb 2012

summers ago.

I.N.S.A.N.E.

And the shift supervisors just kept us all just scrambling and sweating and running like hell by saying stuff frequently about how GREAT it was to move up. It was a direct hire situation and they kept talking about opportunities for advancement and the conveyor belts NEVER EVER stopped, even if stuff got jammed at your loading dock, which you worked by yourself, until the BELL RANG, even past the end of your shift.

I used to go home, get out of the car, and walk over and fall fully-clothed into the swimming pool in our apartment complex.

lifesbeautifulmagic

(2,511 posts)
17. JESUS H CHRIST. EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:29 PM
Feb 2012

UNION, UNION, UNION, UNION

Where are the teamsters on this.

Loved the point about online retailers not paying any tax to use/pay for the roads they deliver all this crap on.

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
18. And Amazon, formerly fighting sales tax on out-of-state shipments, will now profit from them:
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:04 PM
Feb 2012

Old news, but relevant. From the L.A. Times, November 2011:

Amazon.com Inc. for years has fought state efforts to force it to collect sales taxes from its customers. Now, instead of battling the tax man, the company is looking to profit — by hiring itself out as an Internet tax collector.

In an abrupt about-face, the company is now offering to handle sales-tax chores for merchants who sell products through its site for a fee equivalent to 2.9% of the taxes collected.

The optional service, which is set to roll out Feb. 1, will be offered to Amazon's third-party vendors in all 50 states. It's a strategy that could reap millions of dollars in new revenue for Amazon, which has been among the most vocal opponents of government attempts to tax e-commerce.

Analysts said Amazon's shift is an acknowledgment that Internet retailers ultimately will have to play by the same rules as bricks-and-mortar stores. It's also a recognition that there's money to be made in the process, said George Runner, a member of the California State Board of Equalization, the agency that administers sales tax.

LINK: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/03/business/la-fi-amazon-tax-collect-20111103

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
19. Jesus.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:13 PM
Feb 2012

Here's the line that gets to me the most:

I feel genuinely sorry for any child I might have who ever asks me for anything for Christmas, only to be informed that every time a "Place Order" button rings, a poor person takes four Advil and gets told they suck at their job.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
32. I was gonna post that too
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:15 PM
Feb 2012

she actually made me lol a few times, I didn't expect that. I worked for temp agencies over 10 years ago, and it was getting really bad then. How many times I wished I could bust thru that fire door and just walk away!

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
47. I worked for a temp agency a few years ago
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:00 PM
Feb 2012

I was "between jobs" as they say. The job was dead easy, but the pace was NOT.

But what struck me most was the way they treated people - as easily replaced cattle, with tight deadlines and lots of pressure. And any transgression was dealt with swiftly and brutally. I never understood why they needed to treat people like that - especially people who were ALREADY motivated to keep a job because of extreme need for a paycheck, ANY paycheck.

I couldn't WAIT for a chance to get out of there.

 

IamK

(956 posts)
21. Most jobs suck, thats why they pay you to come to work.....
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 08:08 AM
Feb 2012

If it was all fun and games, they would charge admission at the door...

tropicanarose

(240 posts)
30. Wchrom, you are right. Yeah, it is work and they have to pay you to do it, but this is abuse rop
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:07 PM
Feb 2012

which is not acceptable at all under any circumstances.

 

IamK

(956 posts)
24. Its a job, its not prison. If you don't like it, leave.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:35 AM
Feb 2012

some of this article is true, some is BS....

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
25. ...
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:42 AM
Feb 2012
cause, you know, workers have all the fuckin flexibility in the goddamned world, right?

they should expect hard times, abuse at work, lack of ability to make ends meet after 8 or more hours.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
26. If you don't like it, leave
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:17 AM
Feb 2012

become homeless, get arrested for being homeless, then go live in prison.

Right?

Sounds like a rock and a hard place.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
37. what bullshit. if you're in a job like that to begin with -- you probably don't have the money in
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:15 PM
Feb 2012

the bank to jump from job to job.

more an employer like this is probably one of the biggest employers in the area.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
40. Too lazy to look ?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:23 PM
Feb 2012

Either:

1- you've never needed a job badly

2- you're rich

3- you're (something I can't say because it's forbidden on this site)

or

4- you have no compassion for your fellow man or woman.

I'm aghast. People don't take back-breaking jobs like this for fun. They take them because they are desparate and can't move 3000 miles away for a better one. Not everyone can pick up and move to a new state or new country for a job.

I hope you never lose your job and are desparate for one.

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
48. Oh I see, you are a member of the Horatio Alger fan club.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:40 PM
Feb 2012

that explains everything I need to know about you.

you're answers are simple and laughable without a shred of reality.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
34. I've worked in places like that
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:45 PM
Feb 2012

I guess you never needed a job very badly ? I believe every word of it.

By the way, Che Guevara is your avatar ?

 

IamK

(956 posts)
39. my favorite Che Quotes...
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:20 PM
Feb 2012

"Work Harder, not Smarter"....

"My feet hurt from all this marching, I wish I had Doc Martens....."

He did not say these quotes as often, but even today they still have meaning...

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
27. Don't end up like Brian.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:27 AM
Feb 2012

"The gal conducting our training reminds us again that we cannot miss any days our first week. There are NO exceptions to this policy. She says to take Brian, for example, who's here with us in training today. Brian already went through this training, but then during his first week his lady had a baby, so he missed a day and he had to be fired. Having to start the application process over could cost a brand-new dad like Brian a couple of weeks' worth of work and pay. Okay? Everybody turn around and look at Brian. Welcome back, Brian. Don't end up like Brian."

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
35. My job has goals like this
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:02 PM
Feb 2012

and the result is that people stop being innovative, stop thinking of better ways of doing things because there is no reward if you do make the goal or do better than the goal. It's not in your favor to achieve more than an average as the bar keeps getting set higher and higher then.

Ridiculous work place. Mine is insane but I am not abused like these poor sots. All the more reason I think for buying locally.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
44. It is really hard to tell the US from a 3rd world country at this point
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 05:54 PM
Feb 2012

the founders are rolling in their graves.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
46. This is why I keep advocating for mental health evaluations, starting with HR and middle managers
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 07:20 PM
Feb 2012

It's been my experience that if you could prove a 10% savings in direct labor by treating people with respect and decency, it would not matter - many in management are so personally invested in beating the n*#@%^*( that they'd fight 'til their dying breath to continue.

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