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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:53 PM Nov 2016

"...and the Worst Is Yet to Come"

Election Reflection: White Anger, Racial Violence, Economic Despair—and the Worst Is Yet to Come
A journalist's dark view from flyover country.


Once this gets going, if you look at the history of fascist of authoritarian states, it moves extremely quickly. It seems to be that everything is normal, and then little things creep in and then once they have power they will abuse it.


People keep saying wait until 2018, wait until 2020. I don’t think we have that much time to try to mitigate the damage that he’s going to do because it will be extreme and it will move very quickly. So really, the time is now. The time to call your representatives, to mobilize with your community, to look out for your neighbor and to think, wait what kind of person are you? What kind of country are we? What does it mean to be an American? What does it mean to be a good citizen? What does it mean to be a patriot? To me, that means you stand up for each other. You work for each other. If your government is doing something that you find morally objectionable, that seems unconstitutional, if your government is not being transparent, if it’s putting open, white supremacists as the chief judges, you should say yes, this is not normal. This is not American values, and then go from there. Work with your own communities locally and also try to contact people nationally to share your concerns. If you are concerned about it, and I really think you all should be. It’s not partisan. If you’re a Republican listening to this, you’re just as susceptible to these things as a Democrat. There’s really nobody who’s immune, except for the team of wealthy elites and backers that are with Trump.


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/election-reflection-white-anger-racial-violence-economic-despair-and-worst-yet-come

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Time is running short.


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"...and the Worst Is Yet to Come" (Original Post) SHRED Nov 2016 OP
This country's only hope is December 19th liberal N proud Nov 2016 #1
Don't count on that. It won't happen. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #2
They'll be "watchful" SHRED Nov 2016 #3
That's what worries me. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #4
I know liberal N proud Nov 2016 #6
Properly-Programmed Republican Robots? kebob Nov 2016 #5
faithless electors aren't going to save us from this 0rganism Nov 2016 #7
the House will just void the EC votes, if they switched some from Trump Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #9
Right Now I am watching the TV Series yuiyoshida Nov 2016 #8
watched it all last year, superb show Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #10
It's no longer fiction. The Neo Nazis (alt right) won. Initech Nov 2016 #12
I'm starting to think Yoda was right. Initech Nov 2016 #11

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. This country's only hope is December 19th
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:58 PM
Nov 2016

And an electoral college that sees a threat great enough to do their jobs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
2. Don't count on that. It won't happen.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 01:10 PM
Nov 2016

What has to happen must come from the bottom up - people organizing and being extremely watchful.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
4. That's what worries me.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 01:16 PM
Nov 2016

But there is a lot of grass-roots organizing going on already in my area and I hope elsewhere. That's our only hope; it sure as hell won't come from the incompetent and clueless DNC.

 

kebob

(499 posts)
5. Properly-Programmed Republican Robots?
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 01:16 PM
Nov 2016

No. We have to fight the incoming tyranny. (Yeah, I think it's time for us Democrats to start using that word against Trump.)

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
7. faithless electors aren't going to save us from this
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 02:46 PM
Nov 2016

even on the very slim and unlikely chance that the EC voted against Trump, congress could override the electoral vote anyway

it's time to face the music and take your next step, whatever it may be

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
9. the House will just void the EC votes, if they switched some from Trump
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 03:53 PM
Nov 2016

He is going to be POTUS starting January 17th, 2017, unless he were to pass away before then, which is not going to happen.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
8. Right Now I am watching the TV Series
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 03:39 PM
Nov 2016


MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE, the fictional series about what Had happened if Germany had won World War II. Imperial Japan owns the West, and every thing past the neutral Zone belongs to the Nazi's.

Its a scary place they have created, even for one such as me, who is of Japanese ancestry. I can't imagine it was any fun living in Japan during World War II. Especially hearing about the fire bombing of Tokyo, and other places.

But that aside, the idea of living under fascism, depicted in this TV series is very scary. Everyone is suspect, even if they are considered loyal to the regime in place. I wonder if we will live in a similar world soon, and wonder how we all will maintain in a country that is run like the former Soviet Union.

Its a horrible thought and some how we have to get though these next four years, and plan to take it back, if there is anything left.

Initech

(100,065 posts)
12. It's no longer fiction. The Neo Nazis (alt right) won.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:39 PM
Nov 2016

Whether or not the West Coast secedes is another story. But the Man In The High Castle isn't fiction anymore - Trump is the Man In The High Castle, and his supporters are the Nazis.

Initech

(100,065 posts)
11. I'm starting to think Yoda was right.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:37 PM
Nov 2016

"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

Fear = George W. Bush administration, 9/11
Anger = Republicans under Obama
Hate = Trump
Suffering = Post-Trump (???)

What's after suffering?

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