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Should we even go there? Historians on comparing fascism to Trumpism
Thursday 1 December 2016 13.17 GMT
Recent events around the world have prompted debate about the historical parallels between our times and the period preceding the second world war
Last Thursday, an 89-year-old Auschwitz survivor recorded a video which promptly went viral. She compared the humiliation, the demonization of others and the attempt to bring out the worst traits in people in contemporary Austrian politics to her own experience of fascism. Gertrude her last name has been withheld lost her entire family in the Holocaust. Her testimony has now been watched more than three million times.
On Sunday, Gertrudes compatriots will vote for their next president. Norbert Hofer, the far-right candidate whose anti-immigration party was set up by a former SS officer, looks set to win.
Across Europe, a wave of hyper-nationalist politicians is threatening to splinter the European Union, with Geert Wilders in the Netherlands and Marine Le Pen in France waiting in the wings. In the US, many Americans are still figuring out how theyre going to face the next four years of a president elected after a campaign built on racism, anti-intellectualism, misogyny and truth distortion; his suggestion of a register for Muslims horrified many. It also prompted comparisons some of them lazy, some of them astute between the 1930s and now.
Against this backdrop, Volker Ullrichs timely recent account of Hitlers rise to power, Hitler: Ascent 1889-1939, has received critical acclaim and prompted considerable debate about the historical parallels between our times and that of the pre-war period. It also raises questions about whether history can teach us how to rewrite our own script.
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Last Thursday, an 89-year-old Auschwitz survivor recorded a video which promptly went viral. She compared the humiliation, the demonization of others and the attempt to bring out the worst traits in people in contemporary Austrian politics to her own experience of fascism. Gertrude her last name has been withheld lost her entire family in the Holocaust. Her testimony has now been watched more than three million times.
On Sunday, Gertrudes compatriots will vote for their next president. Norbert Hofer, the far-right candidate whose anti-immigration party was set up by a former SS officer, looks set to win.
Across Europe, a wave of hyper-nationalist politicians is threatening to splinter the European Union, with Geert Wilders in the Netherlands and Marine Le Pen in France waiting in the wings. In the US, many Americans are still figuring out how theyre going to face the next four years of a president elected after a campaign built on racism, anti-intellectualism, misogyny and truth distortion; his suggestion of a register for Muslims horrified many. It also prompted comparisons some of them lazy, some of them astute between the 1930s and now.
Against this backdrop, Volker Ullrichs timely recent account of Hitlers rise to power, Hitler: Ascent 1889-1939, has received critical acclaim and prompted considerable debate about the historical parallels between our times and that of the pre-war period. It also raises questions about whether history can teach us how to rewrite our own script.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/01/comparing-fascism-donald-trump-historians-trumpism
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Should we even go there? Historians on comparing fascism to Trumpism (Original Post)
inanna
Dec 2016
OP
I remember now that it looked like he was trying to trim the parliament down
lagomorph777
Dec 2016
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JudyM
(29,225 posts)1. Stunningly good news on this yesterday: Hofer lost to a Green/Social Democrat!!!
A big ray of sunshine through the clouds that have been gathering...
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)2. Whew. But what about Italy and New Zealand?
Both PMs resigned within an hour of each other. Is it a global Putin putsch?
JudyM
(29,225 posts)3. Hopefully not... neither country's final result will be known for a while.
NPR had an interesting analysis re: Italy this morning, concluding that it was more about rejection of the reform program and that he may well be reelected since his party has a ~40% plurality.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)4. I remember now that it looked like he was trying to trim the parliament down
That might have been a good reason for voters to be suspicious, so maybe it's a good sign.
NRQ891
(217 posts)5. the problem they have in discussing it, is that they keep running into Godwin's Law nt