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riversedge

(70,196 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 06:07 PM Dec 2016

Was Rudy Giuliani at the Center of an FBI-Trump Campaign Conspiracy to Steal the Election?





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Rudy just fell off the radar a while ago. My guess--he is up to his neck in this scandal !!!



Was Rudy Giuliani at the Center of an FBI-Trump Campaign Conspiracy to Steal the Election?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/was-rudy-giuliani-at-the-center-of-an-fbi-trump-campaign_us_585ad14ce4b014e7c72ed993

12/21/2016 04:45 pm ET | Updated 8 hours ago






Seth Abramson
Attorney; Assistant Professor at University of New Hampshire; Poet; Editor, Best American Experimental Writing; Editor, Metamodern Studies.


Publicly Available Information Appears to Put Giuliani at the Center of a Watergate-Level Conspiracy


It’s surprising that Rudy Giuliani has been out of the news lately, given that, as recently as November 7th, Donald Trump was planning on offering him a Cabinet position.
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The most likely answer for Comey’s uncharacteristic behavior? Again, Rudy Giuliani.

Per a CNN report, on October 28th Rudy Giuliani went on the Lars Larson radio program and confessed that current agents in the FBI had committed Hatch Act violations to get him information about the ongoing Clinton investigation. Specifically, wrote CNN, “the former mayor said he was in contact with former agents ‘and a few active agents, who obviously don’t want to identify themselves.’” Giuliani wasn’t even being especially coy; he was quite clearly indicating that the reason the current FBI agents who’d spoken to him didn’t want to identify themselves was because their contact with him had been illegal.

The next day, Giuliani tried to walk back this very explicit claim of being the recipient of Hatch Act-violative leaks. He’d only been speaking with former FBI agents, he now maintained to CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. His reference to “a few active agents who obviously don’t want to identify themselves,” and his careful distinction of those agents from the former agents he’d also been speaking to, was just a slip-up, he said. In fact—exhibiting, suddenly, a remarkably clear memory as to whom he’d spoken to and when—he said he hadn’t spoken to a current FBI agent in “ten months.”

Unfortunately, no one was buying it.

Indeed, multiple Congressmen almost immediately called for a Congressional investigation into what Giuliani knew and when he knew it. Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign proposed that the Inspector General of the FBI should investigate the matter.

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So did the rank-and-file FBI agents in the New York field office of the FBI have a motive to use Giuliani’s friends as an intermediary to illegally feed confidential information to the Trump campaign? Absolutely, says Giuliani. Asked on November 4th, on Fox & Friends, about whether he had heard about the “reopening” of the Clinton investigation prior to James Comey announcing it publicly, Giuliani replied, “Did I hear about it? You’re darn right I heard about it. And I can’t even repeat the language that I heard from the former FBI agents.” ............................

If this seems to you like something Giuliani maybe shouldn’t have said publicly, you’re right. But in fact he’d slipped up far worse in his conversation with Fox & Friends on November 4th.

Speaking of Comey’s announcement that “new” evidence had been found in the Clinton investigation, Giuliani told Fox News, “I had expected this for the last, honestly, to tell you the truth, I thought it was going to be about three or four weeks ago” (emphasis supplied).

“Three or four weeks ago”—of course. Because “three or four weeks ago” is when the New York field office of the FBI had found the “new” Clinton emails on Anthony Wiener’s server. It was “three or four weeks ago” that these same agents had begun a widely reported 24-day campaign to hide this information from Director Comey—the better to ensure that any leak of the information would cause maximum pre-election damage to the Clinton campaign. Had the “new” information held by these rank-and-file agents leaked to the media in the first week of October, it would have had little to no impact on the election. Instead, the agents’ deliberate delay in sending this information up the chain of command forced Comey to reveal the information at the very end of October—thereby creating a story that exploded like a political hand grenade over the entire first week of November.

Giuliani’s slip on Fox News thus helps us establish the timeline
for a possible conspiracy between the FBI and the Trump campaign to illegally leak FBI evidence and swing the presidential election to Trump:..........................
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Was Rudy Giuliani at the Center of an FBI-Trump Campaign Conspiracy to Steal the Election? (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2016 OP
Not a question of was he, a question of how involved in the planning was he. shraby Dec 2016 #1
So who's going to do anything about it? CanonRay Dec 2016 #2
A quote from Giuliani (perhaps not strictly verbatim) triron Dec 2016 #3
kick for visibility triron Dec 2016 #4
a special place rtracey Dec 2016 #5

shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. Not a question of was he, a question of how involved in the planning was he.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 07:19 PM
Dec 2016

Looks like up to his keester.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
2. So who's going to do anything about it?
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 08:57 PM
Dec 2016

Attorney General Jeff Sessions? Face it we have no laws anymore.

triron

(21,999 posts)
3. A quote from Giuliani (perhaps not strictly verbatim)
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:24 PM
Dec 2016

"we have a few things up our sleeve(s)"
Wonder how much he knew about the hacking originating from Vlad?
And the extent thereof?

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
5. a special place
Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:11 PM
Dec 2016

A special place in HELL for all of them involved...... sooner or later they will answer for their actions...

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