Donald Trump's most bone-chilling tweet

[OKIsItJustMe]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/opinions/donald-trumps-most-bone-chilling-tweet-obeidallah-opinion/

[font face=Serif][font size=5]Donald Trump's most bone-chilling tweet[/font]

By Dean Obeidallah
Updated 5:26 PM ET, Sat February 4, 2017

[font size=3](CNN) — On Saturday morning, President Donald Trump may have unleashed his most bone-chilling tweet -- at least to those who believe the United States should not become a Trump-led dictatorship. And I don't make that comment simply to be provocative or without giving it a great deal of thought. Our democracy is far more fragile than some might grasp and Trump is engaging in a concerned effort to undermine the workings of it.

Here is Trump's truly jaw-dropping tweet from Saturday morning: "The opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!"

Why is this so concerning? It's OK to argue about whether the judge should or shouldn't have issued this order. But Trump is apparently attempting to delegitimize our federal judiciary by calling Judge James Robart, a George W. Bush-appointed judge, a "so-called" judge while arguing that his decision is "ridiculous."

Let's be blunt, because the stakes demand it: An independent federal judiciary is our last, best hope at preventing Trump from violating the US Constitution and illegally grabbing power. And Trump has to understand that, hence his attempt to undermine it.

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[rzemanfl]

1. A so-called tweet from a so-called president of the so-called "United" States of America. n/t

[benld74]

2. What I read in Twitlers idiocity

Was this
A federal judges opinion is taking law enforcement away from the country!
Judges uphold the laws!!!

[ginnyinWI]

3. I do think the Judiciary branch is the one to stop him.

The Legislative branch is a mixed bag and tilts toward the right. For now anyway,

So we have the Constitution, lawyers and judges who will oppose. Fingers crossed.

[Crash2Parties]

17. Our only hope is that he pushes them far enough before those Federal judge seats are all filled.

Thing is though, we have to really push the Dems *hard* and *fast* to initiate court actions against him, before it is too late.

[Amaryllis]

4. Must read. Excellent article and it is very heartening to see CNN calling it like it is!!

"The President truly appears to be leading a master class in transforming the United States into a dictatorship. Trump -- and it's fair to assume it is by design -- has sought to undermine anyone or anything that tries to counter him. "

snip

"The Founding Fathers enshrined a separation of powers in our Constitution so that there would be inherent checks and balances to avoid a situation where a president could become a king. After all, the Founders had just risked life and limb rebelling against the King of England.

Trump's concerted attacks to delegitimize our media, our intelligence community and now our federal judiciary would have no doubt alarmed them. And it should be terrifying to every American who truly believes in our Constitution and in the promise of America."

How long before they mention impeachment?

[Scarsdale]

30. GOP

The gop will do nothing, until all the laws President Obama put in place are destroyed. To HELL with the country, power is what they want. Well, power and wealth. tRump is just a useful tool to destroy law and order. Until the democratic party is in power, the country will continue this downward spiral. tRump is INSANE, or in the early stages of dementia.

[ginnyinWI]

33. He's trying to run it like a CEO.

It's what he has always done with his businesses. And not well, mind you--he operates on emotion and instinct and the wish for adulation.

[gordianot]

5. Completely clueless to the law.

Article Two of the United States Constitution establishes the executive branch of the federal government, which carries out and enforces federal laws. It includes the President, the Vice President, the Cabinet, executive departments, independent agencies, and other boards, commissions, and committees.

To do that you need to understand there are laws, this is not rule by proclamation or executive action. Trump is begging for conflict with the courts.

[DemoTex]

6. Who could have seen this coming?

U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Paul Curiel could have, I wager.

[mnhtnbb]

21. Really. Judge Curiel was the object of Trump's disdain last spring.

I remember his tirade against the Hispanic judge in the Trump University case.

He had this to say about U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel (whom Trump claimed was "Mexican", but Curiel was born in Indiana).

"I have a judge who is a hater of Donald Trump, a hater, he's a hater," he continued. "I'm getting railroaded by a legal system that frankly they should be ashamed."

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-hispanic-judge-trump-university-lawsuit-hater-n582066


It's Trump who is the "hater" and the "so-called" president. And deep down he knows it. This is why he attacks other people
for reasons that are really about himself. It's classic projection.

Trump knows he's nothing but a con man and truly unqualified for and incapable of carrying out the duties of president. It's going to get to
him one of these days and the realization is going to probably result in a spectacular psychological melt-down. I just hope he can be
contained when it happens and that he doesn't take innocent people down with him.

[Equinox Moon]

7. What would happen if Homeland Security only listened to trump?

What if the judges order was ignored? Who would stop that?

[Marthe48]

8. 1776

n/t

[7962]

34. I'd think he could be held in contempt?

But then enforced by who?

[paleotn]

35. US Marshals

The judiciary's enforcement arm.

Protecting Ruby Bridges during New Orleans desegregation, upholding a federal judge's court order in 1960...




The same for James Meredith at Ole Miss in 1962

[Percy Cholmondeley]

9. Let's face it -- our so-called president doesn't think that deeply

not about anything, at any time. He can't. He was just having one of his tantrums, little boy that he is. Like pretty much everything else he says, it really didn't mean that much (to him). This is how he has gotten through life at this point -- born with a silver spoon, never had to be around anybody who wasn't subservient to him or that he couldn't bully. He doesn't know that now, he's not really getting away with this stuff. And while everybody is having their attention directed at him, the cynical republicans are ruining the country and our lives as fast as they can. People who know him say he has no attention span -- zero. That's why his daughter has to be at all meetings. There's a pic on here, I believe, of her sitting in at a meeting of the council of economic advisers, so she can tell him what happened later. The guy is the opposite of Barack Obama. I thought this stolen election was a disaster, but it's a tragedy.

[catbyte]

10. +1000 & welcome to DU!

[OKIsItJustMe]

12. Well to be fair...

He was shipped off to military school as a boy. That meant he wasn’t always the top dog.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decades-later-disagreement-over-young-trumps-military-academy-post/2016/01/09/907a67b2-b3e0-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html

[font face=Serif][font size=5]50 years later, disagreements over young Trump’s military academy record[/font]

By Michael E. Miller January 9, 2016

[font size=3]From the moment 17-year-old Donald Trump was named a captain for his senior year at New York Military Academy, he ordered the officers under his command to keep strict discipline. Shoes had to be shined. Beds had to be made. Underclassmen had to spring to attention.

Then, a month into Trump’s tenure in the fall of 1963, came an abrupt change.

The tall, confident senior with a shock of blond hair was removed from that coveted post atop A Company and transferred to a new job on the school staff — another prestigious assignment, but one with no command responsibilities. He moved out of the barracks and into the administration building, swapping jobs with a fellow high-ranking senior who took command of Trump’s old group.

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Former cadets recall the change differently. They say school administrators transferred Trump after a freshman named Lee Ains complained of being hazed by a sergeant under Trump’s command. School officials, those cadets say, were concerned that Trump’s style of delegating leadership responsibilities while spending a lot of time in his room, away from his team, allowed problems to fester.

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[Scarsdale]

31. Ivanka

Was she sitting on his lap?

[paleotn]

36. Exactly and welcome!

[DallasNE]

11. Tump Has Launched His 2020 Re-election Campaign

He is clearly in campaign mode rather than in governing mode. Indeed, is he even capable of doing a pivot into governing mode. I have my doubts.

[Crash2Parties]

18. I think this is just Trump mode; pure narcissism backed by ignorance.

[SylviaD]

13. I despise tRump as much as the next person, but why is anyone surprised at this?

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tRump loathes Shrub Bush and of course any judge appointed by Shrub is illegitmate in tRumps eyes.

[OKIsItJustMe]

14. I think you're being far too generous

I doubt his appointment by Bush has anything to do with Trump's reaction.

[SylviaD]

20. I'm sure he's aware of who appointed this judge.

His small mind stores up every petty grievance, its how his giant ego works.

[Plucketeer]

15. Violating the constitution and grabbing power is a lesser worry

than this tantrum-throwing cry-baby starting a nuclear shoot-out! Holy FUCK! Where in DC does the emergency squad sit with the straight jacket ready????? I hope they've got their paddy-wagon tuned up and know their drill!

[Crash2Parties]

16. I just realized Trump thinks a judges "opinion" is like "opinion vs fact"

Also, he's a narcissist, as in "an intrinsic quality of how he exists in the world". To have someone - anyone - have jurisdiction over a decision of his is something he has to take down, regardless of the consequences.

[Eyeball_Kid]

25. And that's why he will end up disregarding a court order and place himself as dictator.

It's the only logical choice he has.

[bucolic_frolic]

19. "takes law-enforcement away from our country" ? Marbury vs. Madison

What does that even mean? Courts are the law, they order enforcement
of the law.

"away from our country"??? And how did they do this, and where did they
put it? Neptune?

Sounds to me like he's angling for overturning 'Marbury vs. Madison' which
established judicial review in the first place.

[treestar]

42. I've argued with right wingers who

insist that Marbury v. Madison is wrong. They think the courts should decide only the cases before them. Yet there is no other way to stop a legislature that passes a law violating the terms of the Constitution, so what would happen if some law stopping free speech, etc., happened? Or if law enforcement violated the 4th, etc? They have no answer for that.

[Maraya1969]

22. WHY is he still here? I keep hearing things that say, "They can kick him out for that

and yet, "HE'S STILL HERE!"

Please tell me what is going on and why he still here?

[OKIsItJustMe]

32. Impeachment would require a large portion of the Republicans to condemn him

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#toc-section-3-

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The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

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[paleotn]

37. Yep...

We need to start working on Repubs in that area. We've already started. Easy for us since we have so many representing NC.

[world wide wally]

23. Virtually any judge is probably twice as smart as Trump

Plus they know the law 10 times as well........... no.. make that 100

[yellowcanine]

24. SCOTUS needs to vote 8-0 and shut his ass down.

Just like they did with Nixon and the tapes. This is that serious.

[Liberty Belle]

26. Hitler created his own court system to try his political enemies and condemn people to death:

and that's after he purged the courts of Jews first.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005467

"In April 1933, Hitler passed one of the earliest antisemitic laws, purging Jewish and also Socialist judges, lawyers, and other court officers from their professions. Further, the Academy of German Law and Nazi legal theorists, such as Carl Schmitt, advocated the nazification of German law, cleansing it of "Jewish influence." Judges were enjoined to let "healthy folk sentiment" (gesundes Volksempfinden) guide them in their decisions.

Hitler determined to increase the political reliability of the courts. In 1933 he established special courts throughout Germany to try politically sensitive cases. Dissatisfied with the 'not guilty' verdicts rendered by the Supreme Court (Reichsgericht) in the Reichstag Fire Trial, Hitler ordered the creation of the People's Court (Volksgerichtshof) in Berlin in 1934 to try treason and other important "political cases." Under Roland Freisler, the People's Court became part of the Nazi system of terror, condemning tens of thousands of people as "Volk Vermin" and thousands more to death for "Volk Treason."

Be very, very afraid when Trump talks of "so-called" judges who disagree with him.

[no_hypocrisy]

28. Hitler's Justice

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Justice-Courts-Third-Reich/dp/067440419X

I read this book years ago. The Third Reich never would have lasted or have been as "effective" without taking control of the court system. Nazi justice became an oxymoron and legalized the dictatorship, criminalization of dissent, religion, ethnicity, and death.

Highly recommended reading.

[Mountain Mule]

27. From the Declaration of Independence

Jefferson's list of the wrongs done to the Colonies by the British Crown, proving that George II was a dictator:

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

Freedom of religion, anyone? Muslims need not apply.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

Mitch McConnel's scheduling of votes at 6;30am EST with almost no prior warning

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness of his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

Can anyone say "supreme court vacancy"?

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

Trump's defiance of the judiciary when his emmigration and refugee ban was suspended

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

Exactly what the OP started this thread about.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

CEO billionaires fill Trump's cabinet


He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

Trump's love of Putin and Russian hackers

[BumRushDaShow]

29. Excellent, if not disturbing analogy

AND analysis!

[Mountain Mule]

38. I'm thinking that I may want to post it

as a thread of its own later on today.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. The "madness" of King George III

is well known. Seems what goes around comes around.

[calimary]

40. GREAT stuff, Mountain Mule!

SCARY-great. Very creepy how what Jefferson wrote, way back when, is so damn relevant today.

[erronis]

43. Echoing previous replies to your post - Excellent and deserving of its own thread

History repeats itself.

Humans are not much changed from 200 years ago, 2,000 years ago, 50,000 years ago. We are driven by primal appetites and preservation. Things like common sense, intelligence, empathy aren't new - they exist in our forbears from millions of years ago.

And yet this group of people think they can change the course of history. They can build a trumpian world where the elites rule (at his whim) and the others are subservient and not even acknowledged.

Surprise. Lessons from history will burn the elites' citadels and assign their spawn to a huge loss in standards-of-living. (sob).

[Motley13]

41. I would expect nothing less from our so-called president