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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 01:40 PM Feb 2017

'The Senate is coming apart'

Things have gotten so bad in the chamber lately that Chuck Schumer even voted against Mitch McConnell's wife.

By JOHN BRESNAHAN and BURGESS EVERETT 02/05/17 07:14 AM EST

The Senate is barely functioning. And the future looks even bleaker.

Showdowns, government shutdown threats and "nuclear options" will loom over the chamber in the coming months. In fact, the tumultuous first month of President Donald Trump’s administration may turn out to be the most pleasant period of the 115th Congress.

It wasn’t supposed to be like this. Total GOP control of Washington should mean that Trump gets everything he wants out of Capitol Hill. But Senate Democrats — the last line of Democratic defense — are slow-walking the installation of Trump’s Cabinet to a historic degree, so much so that Republicans haven’t even started yet on Trump’s legislative agenda. Republicans will eventually win all these confirmation battles, but it will be time-consuming and ugly.

How ugly has it gotten? Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) voted against the nomination of Elaine Chao for secretary of transportation. Chao happens to be the wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

Chao was approved easily — the vote was 93-6 — but Schumer's “no” vote infuriated many Republicans. Yet it was also the embattled Schumer's way of sending a message to both his base and GOP counterparts — I will do whatever it takes. He joined the likes of Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker in voting against Chao.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/senate-outlook-battles-threats-nuclear-options-234622

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'The Senate is coming apart' (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
Good for him, no more criminal fucks in my government, please. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2017 #1
Only 6 votes against?????? dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #8
Chao was Trump's way of "draining the swamp" -- appointing the wife of LuckyLib Feb 2017 #2
Clearly a payment to McConnell for keeping his mouth shut during the campaign. dalton99a Feb 2017 #6
McConnell is up to his eyeballs bdamomma Feb 2017 #21
And the daughter of a suspected drug trafficker who's made Bitchy Mitchy very richy. tenorly Feb 2017 #15
Man, you're not kiddling. SunSeeker Feb 2017 #22
Where's my whip? We need about 50 more votes, Chuck. librechik Feb 2017 #3
Business as usual. democratisphere Feb 2017 #4
That was the plan all along. 2naSalit Feb 2017 #5
No, there's been a fairly consistent trend in the last 20, 30 years. Igel Feb 2017 #9
The more we can tie their hands the less damage the can do. And what a bunch of Squinch Feb 2017 #7
one thing we know for sure about Elaine... blue sky at night Feb 2017 #10
Grind the fucking place to a halt. Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #11
Dems should vote against every one of trump's picks. mountain grammy Feb 2017 #12
Yes elmac Feb 2017 #14
Putin's dream come true orangecrush Feb 2017 #13
Exactly. DK504 Feb 2017 #17
Seems to me zentrum Feb 2017 #16
that was a corrupt nomination barbtries Feb 2017 #18
Who wrote that article? Sure looks like they had chips on their shoulders: George II Feb 2017 #19
The Dems who voted against were Danascot Feb 2017 #20

bdamomma

(63,839 posts)
21. McConnell is up to his eyeballs
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 06:10 PM
Feb 2017

in whatever cover up they are involved in probably the Comey thing. Just taking a guess here.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Man, you're not kiddling.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 03:39 AM
Feb 2017
The Republican Senate minority leader’s personal wealth grew seven-fold over the last ten years thanks in large part to a gift given to him and his wife in 2008 from James Chao worth between $5 million and $25 million (Senate ethics forms require personal finance disclosures in ranges of amounts, rather than specific figures). The gift helped the McConnells after their stock portfolio dipped in the wake of the financial crisis that year, and ensured they could pay off more than $100,000 in mortgage debt on their Washington home.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
9. No, there's been a fairly consistent trend in the last 20, 30 years.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:39 PM
Feb 2017

Down. There are exceptions, but the rule holds.

My metaphor is that the Senate is on a staircase. At the top is a spirit of compromise that allows the Senate to reach a lot of decisions that mostly please no constituency entirely; the satisfaction gauge tilts towards the majority, but with due respect for the minority when the choice isn't a stark yes/no with no middle ground. On occasion, the gauge tilts to the minority's side.

"Majority" and "minority" are by issue, not by party. There may be a correlation, but it's not lockstep. When I see lockstep, I know that they're not near the top. More and more often, I see things that must be in lockstep, that brokers no compromise or mitigation of extreme views. And more and more people call it good when that tilts the gauge in their direction, and evil when it tilts away from them. They've set themselves up as the only true moral good for society; the Puritans would recognize this, in spades, even if it is a character of both atheists and deists and theists, of those on the right and on the left, of those who see everything ideologically or solely economically.

At the bottom lie stark polarized opposites, with parties in absolute lockstep. We're not there.

But every session of the Senate has a funny kind of controversy. The minority side says that the step they are on must be the lowest step ever reached. Of course, the current minority is precisely the one who decided to go down to that step the last time around. The majority looks and sees profit in going down another step or two or three, and when they become the minority party they'll lambast the majority for using the tools that they purchased at the cost of so much ill-will and acrimony.

Both parties play to the margins. In the end, they'll become marginalized, but until then as the country flip-flops parties the ideological flip-flop is a bit more extreme and those on the margins, those who almost were able to finally seize the power that their god (a deity or history or social justice or whatever) says they and they alone should have are ever more frustrated and ever more enveloped in the apocalyptic. Meanwhile, its those in the middle that are shot at from both sides and take the most damage. Of course, left-of-center (D) are closer to the nowhere-near-center (D) and so take more damaging fire from that side than from the (R). Right-of-center (R) are closer to the nowhere-near-center (R) and so take more damaging fire from that side than from the (D). In a civil war, political, ideological, or using actual ammo it's the majority that suffer at the hands of the two extreme minorities, both of whom view themselves as righteous and, in fact, the majority.

And we worry about fake news that few noticed and which probably made scant difference compared to the partisan-whipped true-but-pointless news ... like emails. http://www.npr.org/2017/01/23/511267145/economist-calculates-impact-of-fake-news-on-trumps-election Notice that the economist in that link doesn't address one point: He doesn't evaluate the likelihood that those who saw the fake news were already firmly in one camp or the other, so that it made no difference to their votes. He evaluates how salient the news stories were, so how much they *could* have effected the vote. (But in today's post-fact news environment, possibility = fact when it's part the news that's print to fit.)

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
7. The more we can tie their hands the less damage the can do. And what a bunch of
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 02:33 PM
Feb 2017

babies! It's only been two weeks. The Republicans invented this ugly. Now they get to see what it's like.

blue sky at night

(3,242 posts)
10. one thing we know for sure about Elaine...
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:52 PM
Feb 2017

she has the some of the worst taste in men in all of recorded history....

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
12. Dems should vote against every one of trump's picks.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 03:58 PM
Feb 2017

and filibuster whenever possible.. Two words: Merrick Garland.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
14. Yes
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:28 PM
Feb 2017

when repugs were obstructionists the people loved it, shut down the gov, the people loved it. Lets give the clueless ameriKans what they want, lets shut everything down. When the economy crashes, when checks quit coming in the mail, when toilets back up, water runs like mud, crime skyrockets and people riot in the streets across the country then maybe, just maybe they will give up on their billionaire run Christian jihadist government and come back to reality, if its not too late.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
17. Exactly.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:34 PM
Feb 2017

"Showdowns, government shutdown threats and "nuclear options" will loom over the chamber in the coming months."

This is what the Gold douche wants chaos so he can cause a real coup.

The idea that only 6 senators voted against Yertle's WIFE for a position she is completely untrained for. Wow what a stead fast strong united Democratic party.

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. Who wrote that article? Sure looks like they had chips on their shoulders:
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 04:41 PM
Feb 2017

"he joined the likes of Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker"?? "THE LIKES" of them?

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
20. The Dems who voted against were
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 05:15 PM
Feb 2017

Charles Schumer (N.Y.)
Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.)
Jeff Merkley (Ore.)
Elizabeth Warren (Mass.)
Cory Booker (N.J.)
Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

If your Dem senator isn't one of them give them hell.

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