Stop Piling On Rachel Maddow For Not Taking Down Trump (HuffPo)

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But unlike a blog post, which can run 100 words or 1,000, Maddow has an hour to fill every show, and she used her hour to make a broader point: These two pages of tax returns are just one small piece of a bigger story, and journalists and Americans alike should continue to push Trump on the issue if he will not fall in line with the presidential precedent set before him.

Perhaps she waited too long to reveal the numbers. But had she had pulled them out in minute one, many people would have switched the channel soon after and missed her message. That prolonged opening segment, in fact, was very much in line with the typical Maddow episode ― a thoughtful, if winding, monologue that delves into a topic in a way Twitter conversations cannot.

“My priority is to get the story right and put it into proper context, and explain the weight of it and why it is important,” Maddow told the AP.

At the beginning of her lede-burying segment, Maddow said she hoped that the two pages of the return would lead to a conversation about where the reporting could head from here. She then discussed why it is so important that the U.S. find out if its president had foreign bank accounts and sources of income. Near the end, she explained that only more tax information can reveal that.

“We can’t know any of that without getting his tax returns,” she said. “That’s why presidents release their tax returns. That’s why there will continue to be unrelenting pressure to find Donald Trump’s tax returns, to expose Donald Trump’s tax returns.”

She added, “And that pressure will remain every single day that he remains as president ― unless and until he releases them, the pressure will never let up.”

It was the best point of the episode, and the best point she could have made with the documents she had. Unfortunately, by the time she made it, people had stopped listening.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rachel-maddow-trump_us_58c95d96e4b01c029d780b71

[Lint Head]

1. We need to stop eating our own. Nobody is perfect.

Democratic Underground has been trolled before and I don't think it's going to end anytime soon. There are those that come here just to cause problems by putting down Democrats and those that champion our views.

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2. Dems have a bad habit of hating on our own

The Maher hatred comes to mind. Knock it off !

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4. Some folks Pile on Maher because of hi s comments involving Muslims. When he gave 15 minutes

to a quack saying goat milk cures aids, and doesn't believe in vaccinations, I think people who disagree with things like that have every right to be critical. That isn't "eating your own". That is disagreeing with some of his points of view

The reason some are upset with Rachael is because she over hyped the story and led people to believe there was more there. That isn't eating your own

Unlike republicans, Democrats do not walk lock in step, agree on most essentially things such as women's rights, civil rights, workers rights, environmental rights, Heathcare for all etc, but we are not going to always agree on everything, and we surely will have different views on how we address the issues we agree on

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5. Nope. It's not just disagreeing with an occasional show or guest.

Many lose their minds and disown great voices like Maher and Maddow. Stupid purity tests. A big reason we are not winning.

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6. I only speak for myself. Rachel DID over hype the tax return. Bill

Maher was stating HIS views.

These had nothing to do with the guest who was a qwack I referred to on Bill Maher's show. Bill Maher was agreeing with him. It was absurd position for him to take. His views on Muslims, also have nothing to do with occasional guests on his show, it was his position, same with vaccinations:

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/03/bill_maher_gets_cozy_with_the_goat_milk_cures_hiv_quack_if_truth_is_dead_and_the_internet_killed_it_maher_is_part_of_the_problem/

As for Rachel's report on Trump's taxes based on what she had, that had NOTHING to do with her guests, that had to do with Rachel over-hyping the expectations:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/us/politics/rachel-maddow-trump-tax-return.html?_r=0

Ironically, what you are suggesting is a purity test.

You want to disagree with my assessment that is fine, but it is bogus to characterize what I am saying as some kind of "purity test that I am voicing", because that is false

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7. Dems constantly throw out the baby with the bath water and get all

bent out of joint when called on it. A big reason we aren't winning. That's right I already said that. Now I said it again

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8. In that context you are right, and the last election did demonstrate that

Among some it was all or nothing, and not only did they get nothing, they condemned the rest of us to that also

I just don't view it in the same way with Maher and Rachael, but I now appreciate what you meant by "purity test"

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3. That is NOT the reason some are "piling on". It is because she over-hyped the story