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denverbill

(11,489 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:19 PM May 2017

Democrats once blamed Comey; now they're defending him

By Julie Bykowicz and Catherine Lucey, The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Starting with Hillary Clinton herself, Democrats have blamed James Comey for her loss to President Donald Trump. And yet when Trump fired the FBI director Tuesday, those same Democrats rushed to defend his job.

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This is an appallingly twisted headline to me, typical of the alt-right. And this is AP? Fucking up once does not preclude being 100% correct the next time.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/05/09/democrats-blamed-james-comey-now-defending/

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Democrats once blamed Comey; now they're defending him (Original Post) denverbill May 2017 OP
lazy journalism by the easily misled. NRaleighLiberal May 2017 #1
Lots of Dems on msnbc. No one is defending Comey. riversedge May 2017 #2
And Trump once lauded Comey, now he fired him BeyondGeography May 2017 #3
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #5
I don't know why you put sarcasm on that one. denverbill May 2017 #7
bull shit . stonecutter357 May 2017 #4
Mostly agree completely. Hortensis May 2017 #24
Obama should have fired his ass, and shouldn't have hired him in the first place dalton99a May 2017 #6
Obama tried too damned hard to try to 'bridge' the partisan divide. denverbill May 2017 #9
HUGE blunders Skittles May 2017 #21
He couldn't fire him ... frazzled May 2017 #15
strange short article. Nothing current--but talking of past reactions by riversedge May 2017 #8
For gods sake, NO DEMOCRATS are "defending" Comey. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #10
We'll just have to agree... yallerdawg May 2017 #11
It is entirely distorted. In fact every Democrat I heard today said that still_one May 2017 #12
I still wonder if Comey wasn't played by someone like Guiliani. denverbill May 2017 #13
I don't know denver, but when the AG told him not to release the letter this still_one May 2017 #14
Well, I'll tell you one thing. I didn't agree with everything Obama did, but I believe.. denverbill May 2017 #16
No doubt it was to reach across the aisle, I just don't think Comey is that naive still_one May 2017 #17
Ii think it's possible, under stress, to make a horrible decision. denverbill May 2017 #18
I hear you denver, we just don't see eye to eye on this. If more information becomes still_one May 2017 #19
We probably aren't that far off. denverbill May 2017 #20
it is called CRITICAL THINKING, assholes Skittles May 2017 #22
I don't give a fig for Comey. I care about POTUS firing FBI boss at crucial point in investigation. Midnight Writer May 2017 #23
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Paladin May 2017 #25
The New York Times did the same distortion with a video last night still_one May 2017 #26
Binary bubbleheads C_U_L8R May 2017 #27
I'll never forgive Comey RandySF May 2017 #28

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Mostly agree completely.
Thu May 11, 2017, 08:43 AM
May 2017

Comey has had a few apologists in the party, whether just ignorant, ethically challenged and unable to understand the issues, and/or (sadly) approving his attacks on our candidate.

But just like their coverage of the divisions in the party, Comey's supposed support is greatly exaggerated by media trying to pump up interest.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
9. Obama tried too damned hard to try to 'bridge' the partisan divide.
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:27 PM
May 2017

But it was like Chamberlain trying to bridge the divide between Czechoslovakia and Germany.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. He couldn't fire him ...
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:52 PM
May 2017

Without looking like he was making a partisan move to influence the election. The damage to Clinton ( not to mention himself) would have been even worse. There would have been screams of Saturday Night Massacre, and people would have assumed there was something big to hide.

Trump's firing of Comey has ZERO to do with that episode or anything about Hillary Clinton. That is ludicrous and makes no sense. It has everything to do with the investigation into the Trump campaign's relations with Russia. And it IS a Massacre.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
8. strange short article. Nothing current--but talking of past reactions by
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:24 PM
May 2017

Dems to Comey and email investigation.

Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
10. For gods sake, NO DEMOCRATS are "defending" Comey.
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:28 PM
May 2017

It's the abuse of power - plain and simple.

What the hell is wrong with the AP??

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
11. We'll just have to agree...
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:28 PM
May 2017

no Republican and no one in this administration can ever take an action that leads to any happiness and ecstatic celebration when a horrible, self-righteous, holier-than-anyone asshole gets his proper due. When WE get justice. When karma comes around.

No.

I refuse to be ecstatically happy.


Well...maybe...just a...little.





still_one

(92,061 posts)
12. It is entirely distorted. In fact every Democrat I heard today said that
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:28 PM
May 2017

Comey's actions 11 days before the elections were inexcusable, however, something is very wrong when you fire the FBI director in the middle of an investigation.

There was no defense of Comey, but there was a definite sense of a cover up going on


denverbill

(11,489 posts)
13. I still wonder if Comey wasn't played by someone like Guiliani.
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:38 PM
May 2017

Screwed himself into releasing something he shouldn't have in October, 2016, because Guiliani told him to. There is something really f'ed up with the way people like Guiliani and other Republicans knew in advance what Wikileaks (and Comey) was going to reveal.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
14. I don't know denver, but when the AG told him not to release the letter this
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:40 PM
May 2017

close to the election and he still did it, to me that kind of says it all


denverbill

(11,489 posts)
16. Well, I'll tell you one thing. I didn't agree with everything Obama did, but I believe..
Tue May 9, 2017, 11:52 PM
May 2017

..he's a really good man.

I think he appointed Comey believing it would help bridge 'the partisan divide' and because he believe Comey was essentially a good guy. There is no way Obama would have selected him if he was remotely a complete asshole like Paul Ryan or Jeff Sessions.

That's why I wonder if Guiliani or someone in his circle wasn't communicating with someone in the FBI under Comey and pressuring him to release the information in 2016.

Comey could have been a stooge in November, 2016, but still an honest person.

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
18. Ii think it's possible, under stress, to make a horrible decision.
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:04 AM
May 2017

Nobody can know 100% Comey's motives for the shit he pulled in 2016. I don't know his conscience. But some of the stuff I've read about him just leads me to believe he was played by people he needed, and didn't realize it until later.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
19. I hear you denver, we just don't see eye to eye on this. If more information becomes
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:07 AM
May 2017

available I would reconsider

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
20. We probably aren't that far off.
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:14 AM
May 2017

I think I just tend to try to think that 90% of the time, people are actually pretty decent. Or they think they are anyway.

I honestly don't know about Comey. Maybe he's a shitbag that slipped through Obama's screening, or maybe he's a decent guy that got screwed over by his 'friends'. It's just the latter seems more likely to me. I didn't like Obama's outreach and hiring of Republicans, but there is no way he would've put someone who was a complete right-wing douch-bag to head the FBI. That's why I think Comey got pushed.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
22. it is called CRITICAL THINKING, assholes
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:19 AM
May 2017

as opposed to PROPAGANDA

everything is black and white to these treasonous assholes

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
25. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:24 AM
May 2017

That proverb goes back some 2500 years, and it is certainly pertinent to this topic. Jim Comey will never, ever be a "friend" as far as I'm concerned, but he's proving extremely helpful, right now.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
26. The New York Times did the same distortion with a video last night
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:28 AM
May 2017

Tonight in their infinite wisdom to setup false equivalencies between the republicans and Democrats, they have a video by Mark Scheffle and Shane O'Neill telling us how both republicans and Democrats have flip-flopped on Comey. It is so out of context it is pathetic. Shame on the NY Times for this garbage.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000005090191/comey-fired-democrats-republicans.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=b-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

At least today, they represented this with the correct context:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/us/politics/democrats-criticism-james-comey.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0


C_U_L8R

(44,988 posts)
27. Binary bubbleheads
Thu May 11, 2017, 09:44 AM
May 2017

It seems to be a republican brain defect that they can only think in absolutes.

Yes.. Comey mishandled some things - and that certainly doesn't mean he's wrong about others.
Geesh Republicans... just stop with your traitorous and manipulative bullshit. Just stop it.

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