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elleng

(130,860 posts)
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 05:03 PM Jul 2017

by Robert Reich:

This morning I phoned my friend, a former Republican member of Congress.
Me: What's going on? Seems like the White House is imploding, and Republicans are going down with the ship.
Him (chuckling): We’re officially a banana republic.
Me: Seriously, what are you hearing from your former colleagues on the Hill?
Him: They’re convinced Trump is out of his gourd.
Me: So what are they going to do about it?
Him: Remember what I told you at the start of this circus? They planned to use Trump’s antics for cover, to get done what they most wanted – big tax cuts, rollbacks of regulations, especially financial. They’d work with Pence behind the scenes and forget the crazy uncle in the attic.
Me: Yeah.
Him: Well, I’m hearing a different story now. Stuff with Sessions is pissing them off. And now Trump's hired that horse’s ass Scaramucci -- a communications director who talks dirty on CNN! Plus Trump’s numbers are in freefall. They think he’s gonna hurt them in ’18 and ’20.
Me: So what’s the plan?
Him: They want him outa there.
Me: Really? Impeachment?
Him: Doubt it, unless Mueller comes up with a smoking gun.
Me: Or if he fires Mueller.
Him: Not gonna happen.
Me: So how do they get him out?
Him: Put someone else up in ’20. Lots of maneuvering already. Pence, obviously. Cruz thinks he has a shot.
Me: But that won’t help them in the midterms. What’s the plan before then?
Him: Lots think he’s fritzing out.
Me: Fritzing out?
Him: Going totally bananas. Paranoia. You want to know why he fired Priebus, wants Sessions out, and is now gunning for Tillerson?
Me: He wants to shake things up?
Him (chuckling): No. The way I hear it, he thinks they’ve been plotting against him.
Me: What do you mean?
Him: Twenty-fifth amendment! Read it! A Cabinet can get rid of a president who’s nuts. Trump thinks they’ve been preparing a palace coup. So one by one, he’s firing them.
Me: I find it hard to believe they’re plotting against him.
Him: Of course not! It’s ludicrous. Sessions is a loyal lapdog. Tillerson doesn't know where the bathroom is. That’s my point. Trump is fritzing out. Having manic delusions. He’s actually going nuts.
Me: And?
Him: Well, it’s downright dangerous.
Me: Yeah, but that still doesn’t tell me what Republicans are planning to do about it.
Him: Look. How long do you think it will be before everyone in Washington knows he’s flipping out? I don’t mean just weird. I mean really off his rocker.
Me: I don’t know.
Him: No all that long.
Me: So what are you telling me?
Him: They don’t have to plot against him. It will be obvious to everyone that he’s got to go. That’s where the twenty-fifth amendment really does comes in.
Me: So you think…
Him: Who knows? But he’s losing it fast. My betting is he’s out of office before the midterms. And Pence is president.

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by Robert Reich: (Original Post) elleng Jul 2017 OP
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #1
"fritzing out" Great turn of phrase. longship Jul 2017 #2
That would probably help them with the midterms nt blaze Jul 2017 #3
I'm not sure it would..... Red Mountain Jul 2017 #5
Right no charisma, elleng Jul 2017 #6
WOWIE! BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #4
Doubt Rump's decompensating. These are people who convinced themselves Hortensis Aug 2017 #7
I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't serve out his term. n/t area51 Aug 2017 #8

Red Mountain

(1,730 posts)
5. I'm not sure it would.....
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jul 2017

Pence has no charisma. Not many people are going to believe him when he promises things will be different. Trump's demise will tear an exit wound in the Republican party like a hole into outer space. Lots of screaming bodies will be dragged out as the party depressurizes.

Or so I hope.

elleng

(130,860 posts)
6. Right no charisma,
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jul 2017

and a record in Indiana many won't like, but that won't matter to many in the trump 'base.'

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
4. WOWIE!
Mon Jul 31, 2017, 07:41 PM
Jul 2017

This seems very, very plausible. R. Reich is a solid realist and I trust his judgment. If he called this person then it was most likely a good source.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Doubt Rump's decompensating. These are people who convinced themselves
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 03:01 PM
Aug 2017

he did NOT have a serious mental disorder in order to support him. Now that it's obvious and proven problematic, they're claiming he's just NOW losing it. Uhuh. It's all ass-covering and ego-bracing fake justification to go with all the rest of their fakery. They don't need more mental disorder to find him unfit for office. What they put in office was unfit from the beginning. And that proved their own unfitness as well.

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