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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 07:26 PM Nov 2017

DID DON JR. JUST SINK HIS DADS RUSSIA DEFENSE?


Lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya says the president’s son hinted at changing an anti-Russia law in exchange for dirt on Hillary Clinton.

BY ABIGAIL TRACY
NOVEMBER 6, 2017 11:24 AM

Donald Trump Jr.’s overeager response to a Russian intermediary’s offer for dirt on Hillary Clinton—“I love it”—essentially ensured that his subsequent meeting with Kremlin-connected lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya would become a key focus for federal investigators. Trump Jr., his lawyers, the White House, and his father have all dismissed that meeting, which took place at Trump Tower in June 2016, as meaningless. “It was a 20-minute meeting, I guess, from what I’m hearing,” Trump said in defense of his son. “Many people, and many political pros, said everybody would do that.” But in a two-and-a-half-hour long interview with Bloomberg in Moscow, Veselnitskaya offered a much more damning account of the meeting, in which she says Don Jr. hinted at a quid pro quo deal.

The “dirt” Veselnitskaya was peddling was information that the Clinton campaign may have received money from the wealthy Ziff family that evaded U.S. taxes. (A spokesperson for the Ziffs said it had no comment.) In exchange for proof that the Clinton campaign received said illegal donations, Veselnitskaya said Trump Jr. indicated that, if his father won the election, the Magnitsky Act—a retaliatory measure the U.S. leveled against Moscow, blacklisting suspected human-rights abusers—would be re-examined. “Looking ahead, if we come to power, we can return to this issue and think what to do about it,’’ Veselnitskaya recalled Trump Jr. saying. He allegedly added, “I understand our side may have messed up, but it’ll take a long time to get to the bottom of it.” (A lawyer for Trump Jr., Alan Futerfas, told Bloomberg that the eldest Trump son had no comment on Veselnitskaya’s interview.)

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/donald-trump-jr-natalia-vetelnitskaya-trump-tower-meeting
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MaryMagdaline

(6,851 posts)
1. The lawyer's quotes of Jr.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 07:38 PM
Nov 2017

Are eerily similar to the way he actually speaks. Someone has quite the memory. Or else ...

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
2. oh yea. the Russians
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 07:51 PM
Nov 2017

recorded their meetings. They love evidence of people law breaking, that is how you make a spy.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
8. Me, neither. She wants to come speak publicly so that she can completely reverse herself
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 08:57 PM
Nov 2017

and say the reporter was lying.

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
9. Ms. Veselnitskaya's job is to create confusion and chaos
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:22 PM
Nov 2017

The Russians want to weaken American society. By aiding Trump's election, they've diminished the power and leadership that the U.S. has represented since the end of World War II.

Now that they've compromised Trump's entire administration-- and possibly much of the Republican Party-- all the Russians have to do is to keep stirring the pot to continue messing with our country. Far too many Americans aren't tuned into their government with the result that the "fake news" becomes equal to facts. The Russians have accomplished their goal.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
5. Don Jr. If We Come to Power Well, donny JR--how it going with you and all that power-and Mueller
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 08:14 PM
Nov 2017

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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
11. Unless he actually offered something of value to her in exchange for whatever she said
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 10:33 PM
Nov 2017

then it's standard opposition research, albeit by someone more prominent in the campaign than is usually the norm. And whatever he offered would probably have had to take place after his Dad won the presidency.

Something like "if we win, and you give me some information to make it happen, we'll sell you B2 bombers at a price of $100k."

And they actually have to prove he said that. Like verbatim. They basically have to have it recorded in order to prove this in a court.

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