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Zorro

(15,724 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 09:30 PM Nov 2017

Man commits mass murder with a gun. Again. And America does nothing. Again.

Here we are again, extending thoughts, prayers and sympathy to the victims of a gun massacre, this time 26 worshippers Sunday at a Texas church (the fact that we are praying for people slaughtered while they were praying is both ironic and heart-breaking). It wasn’t the gun, the nation will be told by the NRA and its backers, and clearly the gunman suffered from (fill in the blank). And remember, guns don’t kill people, people kill people (as in, people with guns kill people, but never mind that).

And we’ll be told again that it’s too soon to discuss gun policy — we must first give the families time to grieve. The gunman was a white man so we must search for the causes and address them without touching gun laws; had he been a Muslim, well, that would be terrorism and we would be told we must close the borders (and gloss over the guns). And today’s traffic report says the 405 Freeway has the usual slowing through the Sepulveda Pass while the East L.A. interchange is a slow go. In weather, it will be cool and partly cloudy. The tide will rise and ebb and the sun will rise and set and in (TBD) days another white man will use a gun to murder (fill in the blank) people and the nation will extend thoughts and prayers to the victims while we don’t talk about guns then, either, because, well, grief.

The familiarity of this is disgusting. There have been at least 21 mass killings (defined as at least four dead in one incident) so far this year, in which 176 people have been killed and 486 wounded, led by the sniper slaughter in Las Vegas last month, according to statistics maintained by the Gun Violence Archive. There have been more than 305 mass shootings (defined as at least four people struck by bullets in one incident) with nearly 400 killed and 1,650 wounded. The notion that the “good guy with a gun” solution could ever stanch this kind of bloodletting is ridiculous.

This is what we accept as normal in the United States of America. This is what we shrug off. The vast majority of gun deaths each year occur in relative obscurity. Suicides. Men killing their intimate partners. Men killing their families. Men killing each other. Nearly always men. It’s the big dramatic moments, like Texas on Sunday and Las Vegas last month, that get public notice. In September, an estranged husband killed nine people in a Dallas suburb at a football-watching party at the spouse’s house, and it barely caused a ripple. That few people nationwide know about that incident is part of our national indictment. Nine dead, and we barely batted an eye. What in the end will move us to act if 26 dead children and educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School did not?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-texas-gunman-2nd-amendment-nra-20171106-story.html

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Man commits mass murder with a gun. Again. And America does nothing. Again. (Original Post) Zorro Nov 2017 OP
K and R. Nt raccoon Nov 2017 #1
Something that CAN be done MosheFeingold Nov 2017 #2
Freedom, innit? weydowner Nov 2017 #3

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
2. Something that CAN be done
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 03:56 PM
Nov 2017

What SHOULD be done is:

1. Fixing the NCIS database. A database is only as good as the information input. The Air Force (and possibly an insane asylum) dropped the ball on this completely. A intra-government and interstate task force needs to be created (with funding) to make sure known whackos like this guy should be on the list.

2. There exists a penalty for lying on weapons applications, but it is seldom enforced because, as Joe Biden aptly noted, the DOJ is understaffed and doesn't have the manpower to go after this very dangerous group. Again, create a task force to prosecute these crimes.

If this happened, the Texas shooter would be in prison and 26 people alive.

Presumably, even the NRA and the Republicans could agree to this.

weydowner

(100 posts)
3. Freedom, innit?
Wed Nov 8, 2017, 06:18 PM
Nov 2017

Nothing will be done.

US citizens will offer thoughts and prayers and teddy-bears.
Then go home to ogle their gun collections.
Those pro-gun people (with most politicians and the NRA on their side) will see absolutely no difficulty with their views.
Those anti-gun folk will continue to howl to an empty room.
Acres and acres of trees will sacrifice themselves for the same old arguments pro- and anti-.
50 years ago the same articles were written. In 50 years identical articles will be written.

And since you are the Country most favoured by God, nobody will be happy until every home has it's own mini-nukes.

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