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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 05:17 PM May 2018

The recent mass shootings in the US all have one thing in common: misogyny


Jessica Valenti

The longer we ignore the toxic masculinity that underlies so many of these crimes, the more violence we’re enabling

@JessicaValenti
Mon 21 May 2018 13.46 EDT

The massacre at Santa Fe high school last week that left 10 people dead - most of them students – seems to have something in common with so many other mass shootings that happen in the US: misogyny. The shooter, one victim’s mother claims, targeted her daughter as the first victim because she rejected his continued harassing advances.

How many more tragedies have to happen before we recognize that misogyny kills? The longer we ignore the toxic masculinity that underlies so many of these crimes, the more violence we’re enabling.

Sadie Rodriguez told the LA Times that her daughter Shana Fisher “had four months of problems” from the Santa Fe shooter.

“He kept making advances on her and she repeatedly told him no.” A week before the shooting, she says, her daughter stood up to the shooter and “embarrassed him in class”.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/21/santa-fe-mass-shooting-misogyny
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The recent mass shootings in the US all have one thing in common: misogyny (Original Post) Judi Lynn May 2018 OP
Yep, the Incel movement poli-junkie May 2018 #1
I keep going back to a Mass Shooting in Mukileo, WA 2 years back maxsolomon May 2018 #2
Look at the statistics with guns and domestic violence. BigmanPigman May 2018 #3
Our country is full of them. Alethia Merritt May 2018 #4
I don't want to blame the victim. murielm99 May 2018 #5

poli-junkie

(1,002 posts)
1. Yep, the Incel movement
Mon May 21, 2018, 05:24 PM
May 2018

is another toxic white male source of misogyny. Now they're emboldened to respond violently to girls and women who spurn their advances -- pathetic.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
2. I keep going back to a Mass Shooting in Mukileo, WA 2 years back
Mon May 21, 2018, 05:32 PM
May 2018

so illustrative of the knee-jerk emotional reaction to propels men to kill women.

the kid was named Allen Ivanov. his GF Anna Bui broke up with him, went off to college. she came back for a party, which he attacked. he killed her and 2 other attendees. now he'll sit in jail for the rest of his life.

he couldn't buy a handgun (21 to purchase in WA), but he bought an AR-15, passed the background check, waited 3 days, and read the instructions in his car outside the party.

SOME young men are going to handle rejection poorly, even pathologically. but giving them access to firearms is always going to make their reaction worse.

guns make everything worse. the militia needs organization.

http://komonews.com/news/local/allen-ivanov-mukilteo-shooter-who-killed-three-gets-life-in-prison

Alethia Merritt

(147 posts)
4. Our country is full of them.
Mon May 21, 2018, 06:52 PM
May 2018

The older ones vote and make sure they vote against women no matter what the politics are. There is something wrong with them, including the women who feel the same way. Can't put my finger on it, but there is something there.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
5. I don't want to blame the victim.
Tue May 22, 2018, 02:37 AM
May 2018

I wonder if this girl's family notified the school of his harassment. Did they notify the police? Sometimes this helps, even if there is little the authorities can do. Sometimes it helps because the families of the harasser become involved, or others who may provide help and counseling to those doing the harassing.

I know this is about misogyny. But maybe there are other ways to deal with young men who do this. Anything that would help!

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