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Gidney N Cloyd

(19,823 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:40 PM Aug 2018

Trump's use of NDAs with his staff breaks with precedent of past administrations

Sarah Hucklebuck Sanders just lied about this at today's briefing. One lie among a pretty constant stream.

https://www.bustle.com/p/did-obama-require-non-disclosure-agreements-trump-broke-precedent-again-10081835

After it became public information that Trump had required White House employees to sign binding NDAs that would last even after Trump's presidency ends, The Washington Post wrote that Trump was the first president to do this. According to Debra Katz, a lawyer who spoke to The Washington Post on the subject, demanding an NDA that includes a financial penalty — as Trump's is reported to have — is "an outrageous effort to limit and chill speech."

"Once again, this president believes employees owe him a personal duty of loyalty, when their duty of loyalty is to the institution," Katz told The Washington Post.

As Politico reported, Obama also didn't like leaks coming from the White House. However, he didn't use Trump's businessman's tactic of requiring NDAs in order to stop them.
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Trump's use of NDAs with his staff breaks with precedent of past administrations (Original Post) Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2018 OP
The idea that White House employees would be asked to sign NDAs beyond normal Sophia4 Aug 2018 #1
They're obviously conflating... yallerdawg Aug 2018 #2
I'm surprised you can have a binding NDA Thyla Aug 2018 #3
Contracts requiring illegal action are automatically invalid. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #4
This is what I would of thought Thyla Aug 2018 #5
I'm no lawyer either, but that's what I've heard. lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #6
The full article at the link gets into that somewhat. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2018 #7
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
1. The idea that White House employees would be asked to sign NDAs beyond normal
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:44 PM
Aug 2018

security agreements is shocking. It is outrageous. It deprives the voting public from knowing the truth about what is going on in the White House.

Ugggghhhhh!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. They're obviously conflating...
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:47 PM
Aug 2018

classified material restrictions with "non-disclosure agreements" - just more bullshit.

Thyla

(791 posts)
3. I'm surprised you can have a binding NDA
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:49 PM
Aug 2018

In relation to a position of public office. National security aside, government workings are supposed to be at least somewhat transparent.
Not being from the US myself I can't really speak for the law there but surely these contracts are voided via transparency of public office.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Contracts requiring illegal action are automatically invalid.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:53 PM
Aug 2018

These NDAs require violation of the laws on government transparency.

Thyla

(791 posts)
5. This is what I would of thought
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:01 PM
Aug 2018

Thanks!
I just wasn't sure if maybe it is a quirk of the US legal system or constitution.
This is not my strong point.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,823 posts)
7. The full article at the link gets into that somewhat.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 04:05 PM
Aug 2018

Obama's counsel pretty much said what you're saying.

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