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elleng

(130,865 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 01:27 AM Nov 2018

A reminder for Thanksgiving. George Washington's famous August, 1790 letter

to the Jews of Newport, RI. He wrote that: “every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.” He continued: "For happily the Government of the United States gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens."


PUBLISH AND REPUBLISH THIS!


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A reminder for Thanksgiving. George Washington's famous August, 1790 letter (Original Post) elleng Nov 2018 OP
. dalton99a Nov 2018 #1
THANK YOU, dalton99a elleng Nov 2018 #2
Imagine that, a president who believed in government, and just wanted Volaris Nov 2018 #3
Washington sure didn't know what the fuck he was talkin' about. 3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #4
GW, man of his time thank goodness! Saw the oldest, historic synagogues appalachiablue Nov 2018 #5
Speaking directly of anti-Semitism. Igel Nov 2018 #6

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
3. Imagine that, a president who believed in government, and just wanted
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 04:30 AM
Nov 2018

Everyone to vote and pay their taxes like their supposed to.

Whatever. Trump will soon have the Public investigations of Schiff to answer to (as well as the shark of Mueller circling under the surface).

He won't survive. His tax returns alone would be enough to get anyone else arrested.

When the money-laundering streams are revealed, the Senate GOPs that took the dirty money won't have any other choice but to convict him (if there's a RICO indictment attached, can NOT convicting him be considered a form of Obstruction of Justice lol?).

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
4. Washington sure didn't know what the fuck he was talkin' about.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:15 AM
Nov 2018

No immigrants from shit hole countries that don't believe in Jesus.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
5. GW, man of his time thank goodness! Saw the oldest, historic synagogues
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

in Newport and Charleston, S.C. impressive.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
6. Speaking directly of anti-Semitism.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:26 PM
Nov 2018

A word not yet coined. Yet "stock of Abraham" is unmistakable.

And, of course, he was quoting from the Tanakh, but a common-for-him quote, but appropriate in addressing this particular audience.

https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/vine-and-fig-tree/

However, while it's famous and tolerant, it's also from 1790, with the 3/5 rule. Moreover, all those immigrants who so freely welcomed were encouraged to spread into the empty wilderness that was the American frontier. Or, as we'd put it today, "dispossess the rightful, indigenous owners." And numerous states had their own state religions, which did allow "bigotry" because it was the federal government that had to allow freedom of religion.

Mostly, though, the "none to make him afraid" would be applied with reference to the domestic military or foreign occupation. But today, lots of people are afraid of the government. Now, before anybody says, "But, Trump ..." let us not forget that many were fearful of Obama's government, of Bush II's, of Clinton's. I knew survivalists in the '70s who had wheat in nitrogen-filled metal drums because of the terrors about to be unleashed by Carter's government. Our fears are concerns, theirs are unreasonable. Even "demean themselves as good citizens" has changed; one wag said it's likely each of us commits 1-3 felonies a day, unawares, so it's hard to be a "good citizen" if somebody is out to get you. This was that wag's point--the government's complex enough that fear is appropriate; it's large enough that if it wants to charge you in unreasonable ways, you and your family are bankrupt and thoroughly punished and ruined long before your lack of guilt can even be addressed at trial, making any victory purely pyrrhic.

Then again, the Whiskey Rebellion was right around the corner. It was a tax rebellion, but also like the urban-rural divide now. In the cities, alcohol was taxed to retire war debt; commodities could be transported, sold, brought to market easily, and cash could be easily moved from city to city, state to state. But on the western frontier (which is to say, the Blue Ridge Mountains) hauling wagons of grain was nearly impossible. The easiest way to make surplus grain marketable and even used as cash over any distance for doing such irreputable things as buying salt or iron tools was to convert it to alcohol ... Which made it immediately taxable in a way considered punitive to those on the frontier. But to make sure that the central authority (as weak and limited as it was then) wasn't shattered at its first dick-wagging contest, the rebellion had to be put down in no uncertain and the privileged-centered taxation scheme imposed on those rube hicks.

Washington did not think that they were "good citizens" in resisting what they widely considered an unjustly imposed law and rode at the head of the militia to impose his government's will by force. To ensure that they were afraid, very afraid ... fig tree notwithstanding.

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