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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:47 PM Dec 2018

Black Voters Will Reject Any 2020 Democratic Candidate Who Trashes Obama to Appease the Far Left

https://www.theroot.com/word-to-the-unwise-black-voters-will-reject-any-2020-d-1831339154


Some people don’t learn, even after losing the hard way in 2016. Despite not being able to convince black voters that Sen. Bernie Sanders was the ideal, perfect, pure-as-driven-snow candidate during the 2016 Democratic primaries, despite arguing that black people were essentially voting against their own interests because we weren’t choosing the senator from Vermont over Hillary Clinton, many on the far left are back at it again.

Instead of recalibrating their thinking or their message, those on the far left seem poised to double down on the same strategy that led to their favorite candidate, Sanders, getting his ass whopped in 2016. They are deluding themselves, believing Sanders’ ability to (barely) beat Hillary Clinton two years ago among young black voters will trump the enormous gap that existed between Sanders and Clinton among all black voters.

They’re even further deluding themselves by going after President Barack Obama for being a “bad president”:

There's no honest debate among 2020 candidates without voters acknowledging Obama was a bad President. They have not done so. I'm going to keep hitting this point because it's simple but unacknowledged. Obama ruined the Democratic Party.
— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) December 27, 2018


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Black Voters Will Reject Any 2020 Democratic Candidate Who Trashes Obama to Appease the Far Left (Original Post) friendly_iconoclast Dec 2018 OP
Not only "black" voters will reject candidates who do that... hlthe2b Dec 2018 #1
I've heard similar sentiments from younger white self-proclaimed leftists. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2018 #2
he once said that Romney is more liberal than Obama ( essentially) JHan Dec 2018 #6
Thank You JHan... The Polack MSgt Dec 2018 #21
Agreed, I will not support any candidate who attacks President Obama Gothmog Dec 2018 #10
Not just black voters. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #3
Same here. YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #4
Your right... dubyadiprecession Dec 2018 #5
You've been here since 2001? murielm99 Dec 2018 #15
I mostly disagree with this article. RDANGELO Dec 2018 #7
"Bernie Sanders did not run against Obama." Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #17
Fuck anyone who trashes President Obama. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2018 #8
Who the fuck is matt stroller ? Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #9
He is very active on twitter Gothmog Dec 2018 #11
Twitter ?? Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #12
Sanders supporters are very active attacking non white posters who do not like sanders Gothmog Dec 2018 #13
Are those the "Bernie Bros" ? Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #14
From Josh Marshall on TPM Gothmog Dec 2018 #22
I'm not black, but count me in. Will not vote for anyone bad mouthing Obama. sinkingfeeling Dec 2018 #16
There's a reason Obama has been Gallup's Most Admired Man for eleven years. The haters can... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #18
and this time around they will be called out on it JI7 Dec 2018 #19
Let's hope so. n/t Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #20
Where does this come from? Who is rejecting Obama? question everything Dec 2018 #23

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
1. Not only "black" voters will reject candidates who do that...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:49 PM
Dec 2018

Who the hell is Matt Stoller and why should we care?

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
2. I've heard similar sentiments from younger white self-proclaimed leftists.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 09:55 PM
Dec 2018

All I can think is: "You fools helped enable Trump"

JHan

(10,173 posts)
6. he once said that Romney is more liberal than Obama ( essentially)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:08 PM
Dec 2018
this idiocy

his writings should be avoided unless you want your brain to hurt.

He even critiqued Nancy Pelosi's framing of healthcare in terms of human lives , instead arguing that she should have framed it as a problem with bureaucracy. And the greatest is his belief that politics only became problematically corrupt in the 70's I have bad news for him, either he doesn't read history books or his understanding of history is really selective. He writes bad takes as if his life depended on it. I don't know why he gets quoted by ANYONE.

The Polack MSgt

(13,182 posts)
21. Thank You JHan...
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:54 PM
Dec 2018

I was looking for that Romney thing.

Stoller is a whataboutist troll and RWNJ apologist who doesn't deserve to even smell an honest man's shit

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
15. You've been here since 2001?
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 01:12 AM
Dec 2018

I have seen plenty of DU members trash Obama. Surely you have seen the same thing.

I was not thrilled that we had to have a special forum for Obama if we wanted to discuss his Presidency without a lot of gratuitous criticism.

RDANGELO

(3,432 posts)
7. I mostly disagree with this article.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 10:14 PM
Dec 2018

Bernie Sanders did not run against Obama. He made the mistake of not making social justice a major plank of his campaign early on. In the time that Obama had both houses of congress, he used that time to get the economy out the the great recession and pass the ACA. After that, it was fighting tooth and nail with a partly Republican congress that could care less about things like income inequality.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
17. "Bernie Sanders did not run against Obama."
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:33 AM
Dec 2018

If not Sanders, who was it that suggested Obama be primaried in 2012?

Gothmog

(144,945 posts)
13. Sanders supporters are very active attacking non white posters who do not like sanders
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 12:19 AM
Dec 2018

Twitter has some discussions about sanders

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
18. There's a reason Obama has been Gallup's Most Admired Man for eleven years. The haters can...
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 02:36 AM
Dec 2018

badmouth him all they want, but they'll never get out of a primary if they choose that route.

question everything

(47,440 posts)
23. Where does this come from? Who is rejecting Obama?
Sat Dec 29, 2018, 02:10 AM
Dec 2018

And from where did "The Root" come from? It does not have any "About us." And this is the second story from this source posted here which raises eyebrows.

Last. we seem to be having many potential candidates - new and eager. There is no need to search for an elderly man from VT who has no intention of being a Democrat.

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