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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:01 AM Aug 2019

This sheriff's deputy refused to work alone with a woman. Now the case is going to court.


The Billy Graham Rule has been scrutinized in recent years

The Lily News
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Adapted from a story by The Washington Post’s Maris Iati.

Manuel Torres, 51, said he told the Lee County Sheriff’s Office in North Carolina that he could not be alone with the female deputy in his patrol car, because it would violate his religious beliefs.

Now the former sheriff’s deputy has filed a lawsuit alleging he was fired over the objection, elevating a practice named after the late evangelical pastor Billy Graham from a cultural battle to a legal one.

Torres “holds the strong and sincere religious belief that the Holy Bible prohibits him, as a married man, from being alone for extended periods with a female who is not his wife,” says the federal lawsuit, which may be the first of its kind. Grant Wacker, a professor at Duke Divinity School and the author of “America’s Pastor: Billy Graham and the Shaping of a Nation,” told The Washington Post he was unaware of other court cases related to the “Billy Graham Rule.”

The Billy Graham Rule has been scrutinized in recent years after Vice President Pence’s policy of not eating alone with women other than his wife came under a spotlight. Pence also avoids attending events that include alcohol without his wife, Karen Pence. A candidate for Mississippi governor, state Rep. Robert Foster (R), drew criticism in July when he said his adherence to the rule prevented him from letting a female reporter shadow him.

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This sheriff's deputy refused to work alone with a woman. Now the case is going to court. (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2019 OP
Ah yes. Ohiogal Aug 2019 #1
Imagine if the female deputy said the same. Croney Aug 2019 #2
You're exactly right. bitterross Aug 2019 #4
Sadly, I have no doubt, in today's environment, he'll win. bitterross Aug 2019 #3
Another example of total ignorance. nt ladjf Aug 2019 #5
If I were a man, I would be insulted to have it assumed... 3catwoman3 Aug 2019 #6
In the oddly-twisted "logic" of some men... malthaussen Aug 2019 #7
Let me guess, Corgigal Aug 2019 #8
I watched the Netflix series "The Crown". Collimator Aug 2019 #9
He's objecting on religious grounds ???????????? Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #10
but he knows when accepting the job that may be required Skittles Aug 2019 #11

Ohiogal

(31,977 posts)
1. Ah yes.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:09 AM
Aug 2019

All women are evil temptresses just waiting to pounce on and seduce fine Christian married men....
Best eliminate them from the work force altogether....

Croney

(4,657 posts)
2. Imagine if the female deputy said the same.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:09 AM
Aug 2019

I can't be alone with a man who isn't my husband.

The response would be, "Then you shouldn't have taken the job."

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
4. You're exactly right.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:30 AM
Aug 2019

The Christo-Fascists would see no problem with that logic at all. After all, their Bible says women should be subservient to men.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
3. Sadly, I have no doubt, in today's environment, he'll win.
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 10:28 AM
Aug 2019

It will be the wrong ruling for the nation and it will take 100 years or more to undo - if we have that long as a nation left.

The Christo-Fascists are in charge and they will continue to re-write the law in their favor. Either through the legislatures and Congress or through the courts. They certainly have appointed enough of their own judges to get the results they want.

3catwoman3

(23,972 posts)
6. If I were a man, I would be insulted to have it assumed...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:13 AM
Aug 2019

...that I could not control my behavior because of my genitalia.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
7. In the oddly-twisted "logic" of some men...
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:28 AM
Aug 2019

... such a lack of control somehow serves to emphasize their masculinity. At the same time, their stoic refusal to permit temptation is also to their credit. Go figger.

-- Mal

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
8. Let me guess,
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 11:38 AM
Aug 2019

the woman working with him makes him feel less superior, because women. I had to deal with one of these clowns back in my USAF days. That was 20 years ago but I guess some cavemen still want to pretend they are the better sex. Mr. Torres needs to quit because he might be alone with a female victim of crime and women can't trust him...cause that's you said. You're now a liability.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
9. I watched the Netflix series "The Crown".
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 02:59 PM
Aug 2019

There was a scene where Graham met with the Queen alone. Admittedly, every story told in that series may not be completely authentic, but still, there would be some public record that they met, right?

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