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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,378 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:11 AM Mar 2020

The Contrarian Coronavirus Theory That Informed the Trump Administration

Hat tip, Kevin M. Kruse:

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Been saying this for a while .. find me a more incisive print interviewer than
@IChotiner
currently working in the U.S.



What’s your favorite part of this ⁦
@IChotiner
⁩ piece?

Hard to pick, but for me I think it’s when Epstein claims Bill Gates backs his view and Chotiner pulls a Gates quote out like the Marshall McLuhan scene in “Annie Hall.”



Q. & A.

The Contrarian Coronavirus Theory That Informed the Trump Administration

By Isaac Chotiner

March 30, 2020

President Trump, who at one point called the coronavirus pandemic an “invisible enemy” and said it made him a “wartime President,” has in recent days questioned its seriousness, tweeting, “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF.” Trump said repeatedly that he wanted the country to reopen by Easter, April 12th, contradicting the advice of most health officials. (On Sunday, he backed down and extended federal social-distancing guidelines for at least another month.) According to the Washington Post, “Conservatives close to Trump and numerous administration officials have been circulating an article by Richard A. Epstein of the Hoover Institution, titled ‘Coronavirus Perspective,’ which plays down the extent of the spread and the threat.”

Epstein, a professor at New York University School of Law, published the article on the Web site of the Hoover Institution, on March 16th. In it, he questioned the World Health Organization’s decision to declare the coronavirus outbreak a pandemic, said that “public officials have gone overboard,” and suggested that about five hundred people would die from covid-19 in the U.S. Epstein later updated his estimate to five thousand, saying that the previous number had been an error. So far, there have been more than two thousand coronavirus-related fatalities in America; epidemiologists’ projections of the total deaths range widely, depending on the success of social distancing and the availability of medical resources, but they tend to be much higher than Epstein’s. (On Sunday, Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, estimated that there could be between a hundred thousand and two hundred thousand deaths in the U.S.) In a follow-up article, published on March 23rd and titled “Coronavirus Overreaction,” Epstein wrote, “Progressives think they can run everyone’s lives through central planning, but the state of the economy suggests otherwise. Looking at the costs, the public commands have led to a crash in the stock market, and may only save a small fraction of the lives that are at risk.”

Epstein has long been one of the most cited legal scholars in the country, and is known for his libertarian-minded reading of the Constitution, which envisions a restrained federal government that respects private property. He has also been known to engage with controversial subjects; last fall, he published an article on the Hoover Institution Web site that argued, “The professional skeptics are right: there is today no compelling evidence of an impending climate emergency.” Last Wednesday, I spoke by phone with Epstein about his views of the coronavirus pandemic. He was initially wary of talking, and asked to record his own version of the call, which I agreed to. During our conversation, which has been edited for length and clarity, Epstein made a number of comments about viruses that have been strongly disputed by medical professionals. We have included factual corrections alongside those statements.

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The Contrarian Coronavirus Theory That Informed the Trump Administration (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2020 OP
The Man Needs A Smack Upside The Head, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #1
Indeed, sir, and it's a sad state to see. Mopar151 Mar 2020 #4
I wouldn't have passed 10th grade biology Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #2
The "Philosophy" modrepub Mar 2020 #3

Mopar151

(9,978 posts)
4. Indeed, sir, and it's a sad state to see.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

As a rather blunt and "unlettered" drinking companion explained of "Gadget": "He needs a stupid slap!"

Further examination of the subject? "I seen him! All fucked up, back takin' the STUPID PILLS!" My dear mother, a lady of the world, did not even lift an eyebrow when I repeated (blurted?) this rather vulgar statement! "It doesn't even matter what exact pills they are. Just like "Michael" - He knows what makes him stupid! Whatever it is, they're his Stupid Pills" !!!
Mom is a true Yankee, there was no "bless his heart" in that statement. Just resignation. and remembering "Gadget" from my kindergarten class.

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
2. I wouldn't have passed 10th grade biology
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:46 AM
Mar 2020

if I’d spouted the ideas in that paper. A weaker form of virus over time? WTF!!!

modrepub

(3,493 posts)
3. The "Philosophy"
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020

You'll find lots of people in Congress, think tanks and other (right-leaning) learned institutions infested with the "philosophy", as I'm calling it, that absolutely any type of actual or even perceived controlling action by government is always wrong. It originated with the Austrian Economic "School" started by Ludwig Von Mises and championed by Frederick Hayek (Road to Serfdom) post WWII. Strangely this economic group choose to describe themselves as neoliberals. They champion "personal" liberty, property rights, free trade and generally laissez-faire attitudes towards any form of government. What's going on in the Whitehouse and at a lot of state and local levels is directly related to this "philosophy"; government shouldn't act because all it can do is cause more problems.

What the "philosophy" doesn't get is that in times of extreme distress government can and does have a huge impact on mitigating crises (if one gives it a chance and if it actually has someone capable of leading in times of crisis).

I'll add this, respect people who have proven they can get things done when it matters not people who can draw up fancy plans that sound impressive. And a corollary, don't put people in government who adhere to the "philosophy" that anything government does is bad.

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