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RestoreAmerica2020

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Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:36 AM Sep 2020

Expert Joe Navarro shows why narcissists become more dangerous when they fail

Trump's "Dark Shadows" interview with Laura Ingraham was scary. Expert Joe Navarro shows why narcissists become more dangerous when they fail.
[ RedStateRachel/crooks and liars; 9/1/20]

Former FBI Agent and nonverbal communications expert Joe Navarro shows why narcissists become even more dangerous when they fail.

Navarro is the author of the best seller Dangerous Personalities, about narcissistic personality disorder.


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According to the former FBI profiler, when the narcissist faces public failure there are fourteen actions we can expect:

1. They will falsely claim that everything is fine and that there is nothing wrong. They will try to first misdirect us or claim there is nothing to the allegations or circumstances.

2. If evidence is presented, they will seek to have it invalidated or claim that it is false, fake, or a product of vague conspiracies, but most certainly not true.

3. Any evidence presented, and those that present it will be attacked aggressively and vindictively. The better the evidence the more aggressive the attack. Individuals who are doing the right thing by reporting criminal acts, unethical behavior, or failings are to be discredited, humiliated, hounded and bullied—not even their families are to be spared if need be. The narcissist will engage supporters or enablers to simultaneously attack those who offer proof or evidence, even if it embarrassingly exposes their poodle-like behavior as that of spineless sycophants.



https://crooksandliars.com/2020/09/trumps-dark-shadows-comments-narcissists
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Expert Joe Navarro shows why narcissists become more dangerous when they fail (Original Post) RestoreAmerica2020 Sep 2020 OP
Go to Psychology Today for the full report and list of Narcissistic Sociopath Characteristics: Pachamama Sep 2020 #1
This kind of insane vindictiveness will come from the man who controls nuclear weapons. Kablooie Sep 2020 #6
I think trump I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #7
I'm familiar with all of these behaviors close-up. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #8
So I see you've met Israel..... diverdownjt Sep 2020 #2
#13 scares me the most. dhol82 Sep 2020 #3
Really good article Kitchari Sep 2020 #4
K&R! SheltieLover Sep 2020 #5

Pachamama

(16,886 posts)
1. Go to Psychology Today for the full report and list of Narcissistic Sociopath Characteristics:
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:40 AM
Sep 2020

It’s all terrifying but we need to know what to expect and what will be coming from Trump.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/spycatcher/202007/when-the-narcissist-fails

10-14 got me gulping:

10). And while lies will increase, so too will be the need to devalue others in order to further value themselves. They will attack everyone and anyone in the most vicious and vindictive ways. This is when we see their rage come through. Not just anger, but unbridled rage. They will say things that shock the conscience and they expect everyone to swallow what they say, much as their enablers do. The most decent of persons will be attacked, mocked, ridiculed, and turned into a human chew-toy as the narcissist unleashes untethered rage and hatred. They will dip down into a bottomless cauldron of antipathy and like an arterial spurt, will spew this toxic brew far and wide with metronomic regularity.

11). The malignant narcissist lacking guilt or a conscience, is only concerned with respect and not being publicly shamed. Any kind of public embarrassment will cause them further anger, further rage, further attacks, further unethical comportment, and unprecedented incivility.

12). If the narcissist is going to be brought down, they will also seek to bring everyone else around them down to vindictively make them suffer. How the narcissist vilifies, lashes out, or destroys others (spouse, friends, business partners, workmates, the general public) is up to the morbid creativity and depravity of the malignant narcissist, the viable tools they have available, and of course how dire or desperate the situation. The internet and social media are certainly useful as lives can be ruined with a single tweet. But so are guns and rifles, poison, and even assassins for hire. And if they command a country, they can put the security organs or the military to work on their behalf.

13). In certain situations, as the end nears, the suffering of others is paramount to the malignant narcissist. It is their way of elevating themselves—sick as that sounds—by malevolently paying back society with even more suffering. As they lash out, they will show no concern or empathy because they have none. If others are suffering because of their actions, the narcissist simply does not care. Lacking a conscience or any kind or remorse, much like Robert Hare’s psychopath, they sleep very well at night while everyone else is anxious, worried, stressed, physically or psychologically traumatizes all the while nervously and justifiably pondering what further malevolence will take place.

14). As they face failure, arrest, indictment, or dismissal, they will endlessly air their grievances. Narcissists are natural wound collectors and as such, they have been collecting and nurturing social slights and perceived wrongs just for this occasion. They will wallow in victimhood claiming they have been relentlessly and needlessly persecuted. They, of course, expect their attorneys, followers, or enablers to subserviently echo their flatulent claims.

Kablooie

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6. This kind of insane vindictiveness will come from the man who controls nuclear weapons.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 01:16 PM
Sep 2020

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If the narcissist is going to be brought down, they will also seek to bring everyone else around them down to vindictively make them suffer. The internet and social media are certainly useful as lives can be ruined with a single tweet. But so are guns and rifles, poison, and even assassins for hire. And if they command a country, they can put the security organs or the military to work on their behalf.

As the end nears, the suffering of others is paramount to the malignant narcissist. It is their way of elevating themselves—sick as that sounds—by malevolently paying back society with even more suffering.

And of course, in politics, much harm can be done when power can be wielded—but the worst comes when a malignantly narcissistic leader or head of state, severely flawed of character, claims that only they can fix things, that only they can shape the future, that only they have the answers, and that only they have a grand vision for the future and so out of necessity they must stay on to save us. When you hear that, it should give you pause. That is when we have to worry the most.


This is what we have to look forward to if Trump loses.
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