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Indyfan53

(473 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:46 AM Sep 2020

This Is Democrats' Doomsday Scenario for Election Night

Last edited Thu Sep 3, 2020, 12:44 AM - Edit history (1)

What if early results in swing states on Nov. 3 show President Trump ahead, and he declares victory before heavily Democratic mail-in votes, which he has falsely linked with fraud, are fully counted?

What if early results in swing states on election night show the president in the lead because most Republicans voted in person, yet in the days afterward, as mail ballots that tilt heavily Democratic are tallied, states flip to Joseph R. Biden Jr.?

Would Mr. Trump claim premature victory — as he did on behalf of the two Florida Republicans and dangled as a possibility in a tweet in July: “Must know Election results on the night of the Election, not days, months, or even years later!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/us/politics/voting-election-day.html


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We should make the effort to vote early in person. We can’t afford the election to be called prematurely for Trump! Mask up and keep your hands clean!

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This Is Democrats' Doomsday Scenario for Election Night (Original Post) Indyfan53 Sep 2020 OP
That's why I'm voting in person. bearsfootball516 Sep 2020 #1
Concur MosheFeingold Sep 2020 #14
If you're sick or a high-risk person, I get wanting to vote by mail. bearsfootball516 Sep 2020 #17
He can claim all he likes-- dawg day Sep 2020 #2
It's Democratic, not Democrats! LW1977 Sep 2020 #3
Democrats is the correct plural sweetloukillbot Sep 2020 #7
DFL Party RicROC Sep 2020 #13
Hate to break it to you MosheFeingold Sep 2020 #16
Putin can't hack mail-in ballots... ElementaryPenguin Sep 2020 #4
Russia can hack the precinct tallies. Those are electronic. n/t Pobeka Sep 2020 #10
Thus, the Red Mirage, as some people are calling it, and the debate begins.. asiliveandbreathe Sep 2020 #5
The Electoral College meets about a month after election day FBaggins Sep 2020 #6
That's why... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #8
Exactly. As Hillary advised, Biden should NOT concede before all the votes have been counted. onetexan Sep 2020 #18
I will vote on October 13, 1st day of early voting in KY. Meadowoak Sep 2020 #9
I'm tired of all these what ifs. Turn out the vote and bury him. marble falls Sep 2020 #11
Ditto. Vote early and tell everyone u know to vote this Idiot out! onetexan Sep 2020 #19
That's why we have lawyers Mz Pip Sep 2020 #12
He can't claim anything vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #15

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
14. Concur
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:12 PM
Sep 2020

There is zero reason to use a mail-in ballot. I don't understand the hoopla.

"If you can go to Starbucks, you can vote." -- Dr. Fauci.

Like it or not, the USPS has been terrible for 50 years. I know it does amazing things. But it also has been grossly mismanaged for decades. Trump may be trying to kill it, but it's about 3/4 dead already.

bearsfootball516

(6,376 posts)
17. If you're sick or a high-risk person, I get wanting to vote by mail.
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:37 PM
Sep 2020

But if you're healthy and capable of wearing a mask, I'd encourage voting on election day.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. He can claim all he likes--
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020

Biden just has to be sure not to do what Al Gore did, and concede, then have to take it back.

"We'll wait for all the results to come in."

And it's hardly unknown. 2000... Bush v Gore... a whole month.

In 2018, several Congressional races weren't called for a week.

"We have to be patient because our military servicemembers vote by mail."

(Of course, now that the polls of the military show Trump losing with them, he'll want to suppress their votes too.)

sweetloukillbot

(11,000 posts)
7. Democrats is the correct plural
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:12 PM
Sep 2020

Democrat Party is incorrect.

And frankly, after 25 years of hearing it, I don't see the point in getting upset about it. They're not going to stop trying to get a rise out of us, because evidently it's working.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
13. DFL Party
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 03:50 PM
Sep 2020

I like the name of the Minnesota Democratic Party, the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party.

Agreeing to use their name might solve this dilemma. Call our party the 'DFL Party'.

Frankly, I was impressed by the name of another party, the Working Families Party.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
16. Hate to break it to you
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:18 PM
Sep 2020

But we've been "Democrats" for a long time.

I have a "Vote Democrat" poster on my wall autographed by Harry Truman.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
4. Putin can't hack mail-in ballots...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 AM
Sep 2020

That fact - and the prospect of a huge mail-in turnout - is why Trump doesn't want us to vote by mail.

If Trump doesn't want me to vote by mail - THEN I'M VOTING BY MAIL - AND AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE!!



asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
5. Thus, the Red Mirage, as some people are calling it, and the debate begins..
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:56 AM
Sep 2020

PLAN YOUR VOTE..

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/blog/2020-democratic-national-convention-kicks-n1236923/ncrd1236932#blogHeader

is a new, interactive tool from NBC News and MSNBC, which encourages Americans to plan when and how they will vote, taking into account each state’s coronavirus pandemic restrictions, mail-in ballot rules, early in-person voting and more.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
6. The Electoral College meets about a month after election day
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:11 PM
Sep 2020

And no state has official results until all the valid votes have been tallied.

The news "calls" on election night... and a candidate's claimed victory... have nothing at all to do with the actual results of the election.

If the "doomsday" scenario occurs, the states won't "flip" to Biden. He will have won them outright.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
8. That's why...
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

HRC suggests no concession. If the orange one tries to mess with the results...

If you think the militias are a force, just wait to see what cheated voters will do.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
15. He can't claim anything
Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:16 PM
Sep 2020

Especially if the threshold isn't even met. 270 to win and I don't think he'll get above 200 on election night. You can claim fraud and I win but if the state hasn't certified it you can't cry foul

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