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Indyfan53

(473 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:34 AM Sep 2020

It's Not Right, But You Might Have to Vote in Person

[link:https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a34124703/vote-in-person-trump-attacks-vote-by-mail/|

If you want to be sure your vote is counted, you're probably going to have to vote in person. This is not right or fair during a pandemic that the ruling regime has allowed to rage out of control across much of the nation, yielding the worst record on COVID-19 response among rich countries. It's not right that this will be necessary because that same regime is waging a systematic campaign to undermine the legitimacy of the election. It's not fair that American citizens will have to risk their health and their lives to exercise their most fundamental democratic right when we could so easily have designed a system where people can vote safely and securely by mail, as states like Oregon have done for decades. But life in a budding authoritarian state is not fair.

The president has latched onto the Republican Party's years-long assault on voting rights and dramatically expanded it. Ever since it became clear that more Americans would vote by mail than usual, the president has relentlessly attacked the prospect. He first did so in rhetoric, baselessly claiming that there would be widespread fraud if people vote by mail in large numbers—again, some states have done so for years without incident—while Republicans simultaneously encourage people to vote by absentee ballot, as he and many of his advisers have in recent elections. There is no functional difference between vote-by-mail and absentee. At one point, he floated—"joked"—about delaying the election on the evidence-free basis that there would be fraud.

Then the focus shifted to using the power of the federal government to destroy vote-by-mail. He tapped a campaign donor, Louis DeJoy—who may have been quite active indeed on the Republican fundraising front—to vandalize the United States Postal Service. The agency's normal functions became collateral damage as deliveries and processing slowed down, but Trump said outright it was related to the election. The implication was clear: if you vote by mail, your ballot might arrive late. If it arrives late, it might not be counted. Even the prospect of this might discourage people from participating. And when proponents of vote-by-mail shifted focus to a perfectly viable alternative—allowing people to drop off their mail ballots in secure boxes—the Trump campaign sued to prevent their use in the key swing state of Pennsylvania. Again, the justification was a baseless claim about fraud.


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It's Not Right, But You Might Have to Vote in Person (Original Post) Indyfan53 Sep 2020 OP
I voted this a.m. in Palm Beach County and sent my ballot via mail. I have a source that will monmouth4 Sep 2020 #1
OR complete your mail ballot immediately upon receipt and hand-deliver to the elections clerk office hlthe2b Sep 2020 #2
✔️ blm Sep 2020 #6
Montana was going to have all mail voting... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #7
I'm glad the majority of the counties were led by "sane" officials. CO will mail out the first week hlthe2b Sep 2020 #8
Same here. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #9
I'm putting my mask on and voting early bamagal62 Sep 2020 #3
Me too, in NC. n/t ms liberty Sep 2020 #4
Me too; at least that's my plan frazzled Sep 2020 #11
Vote early in person and help others to do the same. blm Sep 2020 #5
In maryland I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #10
I have to vote in person on Election Day. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2020 #12
I don't have a choice texasfiddler Sep 2020 #13
Whatever it takes. Paladin Sep 2020 #14
I have already voted and my vote will be counted. Nitram Sep 2020 #15

monmouth4

(9,691 posts)
1. I voted this a.m. in Palm Beach County and sent my ballot via mail. I have a source that will
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:39 AM
Sep 2020

enable me to check and see if my vote was counted. Here's hoping..

hlthe2b

(102,188 posts)
2. OR complete your mail ballot immediately upon receipt and hand-deliver to the elections clerk office
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:39 AM
Sep 2020

ESPECIALLY in states that will at least process (if not process and count) mailed ballots BEFORE election day. Check for the proper signature and date on the outer envelope and that you INCLUDED the ballot inside the PRIVACY Sleeve within this outer envelope.

Here is where you check:
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-16-when-absentee-mail-ballot-processing-and-counting-can-begin.aspx

Colorado is an all-mail state, but they make it easy with officially secured drop boxes to avoid depending on USPS, given DeJOy's corrupt interventions. Still, I cannot wait to receive it and will make a beeline the next day to the election clerk's office.

2naSalit

(86,496 posts)
7. Montana was going to have all mail voting...
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:10 AM
Sep 2020

But humpers threw a fit, they are having a hard time finding shit to throw at Bullock, and filed lawsuits to try and prevent it. So the eleven shit for brains counties will have vote in person polls and the rest of 56 counties will be using mail ballots which usually at least a third of the voters anyway. My county is mail only and I will be hand delivering mine as soon as I get it. Ballots will be mailed out October 9.

hlthe2b

(102,188 posts)
8. I'm glad the majority of the counties were led by "sane" officials. CO will mail out the first week
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:12 AM
Sep 2020

in OCT as well. I feel as though I am holding my breath until I can hand-deliver it.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
11. Me too; at least that's my plan
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:57 AM
Sep 2020

I will receive a mail-in ballot soon, but I plan to take it to an early voting site to cede it when they open in the neighborhoods on October 14.

If you've masked up and walked into a grocery store or a doctor's office at all during the pandemic, going to vote in person is no different, and probably safer. I will wear gloves as well. Just make sure to take a "cheat sheet" so that you know how you will vote up and down the ballot. That will speed the process and get you in and out more quickly. In Chicago, that's a whole lotta judicial retention slots to mark.

blm

(113,037 posts)
5. Vote early in person and help others to do the same.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:55 AM
Sep 2020

It’s the ONLY way to assure your vote is counted.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
10. In maryland
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:27 AM
Sep 2020

I applied to vote by mail.
Put in my application before DeJoy was put in as "postmaster" and wreaked his havoc in the post office.

Waiting for my ballot.
I signed up to vote by mail in July and returned my request paper in early August. Plan to put in a drop box.


Maryland just started mailing out ballots a couple of days ago.

I am wondering if it will get counted. All I gotta say is it better be counted.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
12. I have to vote in person on Election Day.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:58 AM
Sep 2020

Missouri.

No early voting, no mail in voting. So I’ll be there.

Biden/Harris

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
14. Whatever it takes.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 10:01 AM
Sep 2020

I'm willing to risk my life, for the opportunity to vote against trump. I hope there are millions of people who feel the same.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
15. I have already voted and my vote will be counted.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:19 PM
Sep 2020

Virginia is not going to let Trump interfere with my vote.

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