Trump May Need to Be Impeached and Removed Before Inauguration Day
The president will not stop trying to steal the election. At the very least, he will do untold damage to the country leading up to January 20.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a34726577/trump-impeach-lame-duck/
Now that Donald Trump, the President of the United States, is personally "reaching out" to members of a Michigan election board as part of a larger plot to simply throw out the results of an election he lost by a comfortable margin, maybe we can stop pretending this is just a public tantrum we can allow to burn out until he falls into a fevered nap. That his allies believe the president must be approached like a spoiled toddler is itself an indication of our national decline, and an indictment of all the lackeys who've worked so hard to make this state of affairs possible. But his campaign is also in court asking a judge to simply nix the election in Pennsylvania and give him the Electoral Votes. This is not just another meltdown to be managed, as we all try to dodge the toys he's throwing out of the crib. He should be removed from office for crimes against the American republic.
I have said in private for some time that I believe Trump, if he is to actually leave office, may have to be impeached in the lame duck period. It's often been met with eye-rolls, but there are a number of reasons to believe he simply will not leave willingly, even if it's useful and necessary to call on him to resign. The first is that he may well face criminal jeopardy in multiple jurisdictions once he loses the immunity protections of the presidency. This guy has been crooked for a long time, and while a staggering number of the people around him have faced prison time, he has yet to see any real consequences. He does not intend to. He also owes a lot of people a lot of money, and it's not clear he could make good even if he wanted to. (He does not.) Beyond the practical, there is the specter of his towering ego and his crippling fear of humiliation. His impulsive and shameless behavior, often bordering on nihilism, is driven in no small part by a primal urge to avoid paying the piper. It's worked for him his whole life. This guy never pays his billsto contractors or to the bankand nothing ever comes of it. Why should that stop now?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Unfortunately.
Aristus
(66,309 posts)Even if they were able to crawl out of Trump's butt long enough to cast a vote yea or nay.
They will never vote to remove...
NCDem47
(2,248 posts)Anyone perpetuating this is wasting their time and pixels.
CrispyQ
(36,445 posts)1. Trump couldn't run for president again so it would open the field for 2024.
2. The election just happened so they would have two years to help recover from the base's outrage over it. And they will be outraged, but I think the GOP can easily divert that outrage to everything President Biden is doing & get them enthused for 2022-24.
That's how I'd be looking at it if I were McConnell. You know a good number of them hate the Con & only kiss up to him for the power of his base.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)with a document signed in blood that at least 20 GOP senators are onboard. Otherwise there is no point in even attempting it. Trump's unlawful behavior and malfeasance is an extension of the same behavior that got him impeached last time. The GOP in the US Senate owns it.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)Its not happening.
mopinko
(70,070 posts)whether or not he is removed, this will put him in the straight jacket he so richly deserves.
and be an object lesson to the ppl of georgia why they should care about having a turtle running the senate.
central scrutinizer
(11,642 posts)Even though there would be no conviction from the spineless Senators. But that would be all the media would talk about, again making Drumpf the center of attention and not allowing Biden and crew to control the narrative.
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MyMission
(1,849 posts)They could prepare the articles in advance, vote on them immediately, send to Senate, which will be without GA until after 1/5 (and after a recount). Harris will still be there through the 19th. Not sure when her replacement will be named and assume office, and am hopeful about the outcome in GA, but cautious also.
I thought we'd have a clear Senate majority after November election, which would have made this idea a possibility, and one I've enjoyed thinking about.
I like the idea of 45 being so deluded he'll win, or so busy with an impeachment, that he doesn't put through his pardons.
He's needed to be impeached and removed throughout his presidency. If at first you don't succeed, try try try again. I don't expect it will happen, but like to think about it.
Kick him out! Lock him up!
dware
(12,337 posts)You are aware that it takes 2/3rds of the Senate to convict and remove a Pres. aren't you?
Where are you going to get 17 R's, and that's if we win the 2 seats in GA, to vote to convict and remove?
MyMission
(1,849 posts)I never thought we'd get 2/3, but did expect us to flip more seats to gain a majority.
With a majority, Mitch would lose power, and evidence could be brought forward.
I know I'm not alone in expecting we'd gain more seats.
In my imagination and hope, some rethugs might have voted to remove after they heard evidence, of treason, emoluments violations, etc I knew it was a long shot, but enjoyed thinking it was a possibility.
dware
(12,337 posts)control of the Senate, boy, did that turn out to be a big turd.
Even if we won every Senate race this election cycle, we would have been far short of the needed 2/3rds supermajority to convict and remove and there is no way the R's would provide the needed votes for conviction and removal.
Imagination and hope are admirable traits, unfortunately, it doesn't get us where we need to be regarding removing Pissolini.