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Mme. Defarge

(8,004 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:15 PM Nov 2020

The new reality of dating over 65: Men want to live together; women don't

Antonio D’Alfonso, 66, is a believer in marriage: He wed three times and was hoping for a fourth go.

For more than a decade, D’Alfonso, a Montreal writer, has been dating a Toronto widow. The two see each other every couple of months. D’Alfonso wanted more: He proposed five times, only to be rebuffed with every try. The older woman refused to live with him, D’Alfonso said, because she wanted to travel and be free. “I have to ask, and I always ask, so what do you want from me?” he said.

The pair took a two-year hiatus, during which D’Alfonso tried dating other senior-age women only to find that they, too, were reluctant to share a home – this even as D’Alfonso said he cooks and keeps a tidy house.

“I really believe that women no longer need men, whatsoever,” D’Alfonso said. “I’m totally irrelevant.”

D’Alfonso’s push-and-pull with his partners reflects a rift emerging between single women older than 65 and the men they date. Increasingly, these men are encountering resistance from older women who want their own lives, not a full-time relationship. While many in this generation of heterosexual, divorced or widowed women want male companionship, they don’t necessarily relish the thought of moving in with a man. Today, say researchers studying this cohort, more older women are rejecting the downsides of the live-in relationship: the co-dependence, the daily tension within close quarters and the sacrifices made keeping a home, caregiving and doing the emotional legwork to keep their unions humming. Some of these women completely forego dating while others opt for “living apart together” (LAT) arrangements, in which partners in committed relationships choose to keep separate residences.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/article-women-older-than-65-dont-want-to-live-with-their-partners/?fbclid=IwAR08AJG2MXj4xY52snJlBJphYny3QUBw6V-_y1-Nj5JDd_6dOS5z-FguQww
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The new reality of dating over 65: Men want to live together; women don't (Original Post) Mme. Defarge Nov 2020 OP
... handmade34 Nov 2020 #1
Damn, guess it's going to be hard to find a woman to cook and clean for me captain queeg Nov 2020 #2
Dang near impossible. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2020 #7
"A nurse or a purse" Freddie Nov 2020 #11
easy to get rid of unwanted attention Skittles Nov 2020 #22
And...this is a problem because...? Heh. Guilded Lilly Nov 2020 #3
Yep, I can attest to that. CatMor Nov 2020 #4
Planning to see my IS (Insignificant Other) over the weekend Mme. Defarge Nov 2020 #8
Ideal situation. ... live apart and he does the cooking. CatMor Nov 2020 #12
YEP! FirstLight Nov 2020 #5
No way would I trade my life of travel and doing what I want sinkingfeeling Nov 2020 #6
Agreed. Mme. Defarge Nov 2020 #9
+1 LizBeth Nov 2020 #20
Makes sense to me! Ohiogal Nov 2020 #10
Reminds me of a joke my sister told me... 2naSalit Nov 2020 #13
Meanwhile, as a woman dating at 56... intheflow Nov 2020 #14
+1 LizBeth Nov 2020 #19
As an older gentleman, my experience is the opposite. Midnight Writer Nov 2020 #15
LOL! SharonAnn Nov 2020 #16
How true. nancy1942 Nov 2020 #17
I agree. Been there, done that, no interest in doing it again. I am Freeeeee! The thing is, from the LizBeth Nov 2020 #18
Incels - the Senior Edition NEOBuckeye Nov 2020 #21
IMO this is definitely true. As a single female senior, I'm not raccoon Nov 2020 #23
I'm 70 and single. Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2020 #28
Women are with men because they WANT to be instead of NEED to be . Maybe he needs to consider JI7 Nov 2020 #24
I would never live with a woman again. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #25
LOL Skittles Nov 2020 #26
Married 34 years. Definitely dated the wrong woman. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #27

captain queeg

(10,076 posts)
2. Damn, guess it's going to be hard to find a woman to cook and clean for me
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

I suspect that might be what a lot of guys are looking for.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
7. Dang near impossible.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:30 PM
Nov 2020

Back in the 70’s, my grandmother, a widow, told me she had to quit going to the Senior Center.

I said why? She says the old men keep trying to date her.
I said what’s wrong with that. She says “they’re just lookin’ for a maid”.

This is not a new phenomenon.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
22. easy to get rid of unwanted attention
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 12:28 AM
Nov 2020

just scratch your crotch vigorously and say, "The doc said those pills would make this go away but it's been WEEKS!"

Mme. Defarge

(8,004 posts)
8. Planning to see my IS (Insignificant Other) over the weekend
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:39 PM
Nov 2020

at his place. He likes his cooking better than he likes mine, and he is a good cook. What’s not to like?

FirstLight

(13,355 posts)
5. YEP!
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:28 PM
Nov 2020

My kids finally left the nest this year and I am alone for the first time in my adult life (after 2 husbands and a lifetime of raising kids singlehandedly)

I'm 50... and have NO interest in co-habitation EVER again! I dont want to learn someone's bathroom habits, etc...or have them in my space when I wanna have a "gross day" lol

I would probably welcome a LAT relationship, visits and keep the romance alive kinda thing. But yeah, at this point just looking for a relationship seems like a lot of work.
I am content right now to just be with myself for a while (and the dog & cat dont mind me talking to them or myself either!)

Mme. Defarge

(8,004 posts)
9. Agreed.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:40 PM
Nov 2020

Agreed! Now if we could only get back to going to restaurants and concerts and the theater... 🥲😷

Ohiogal

(31,880 posts)
10. Makes sense to me!
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:41 PM
Nov 2020

You know the old saying .... these older men are just looking for “a nurse with a purse”.

2naSalit

(86,293 posts)
13. Reminds me of a joke my sister told me...
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 06:03 PM
Nov 2020


A group of women who meet every week for lunch followed by some kind of activity which they decide upon at lunch. Ethel, Velma and Sue usually find something like a movie or a favorite walk along a beach but nearly every time Ethel suggests the bowling alley o r something like that because, "there are men there." This became a tradition with her. One afternoon Ethel couldn't make it to the lunch and the other two began to discuss their discomfort in Ethel's always wanting to go to a place where there are men. Velma said, "Ethel's always talking about men and always wants to go someplace they are and it's annoying." Sue sad, "Yeah, I don't get it, I mean, what would I want with one of those dirty old things?"

intheflow

(28,442 posts)
14. Meanwhile, as a woman dating at 56...
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 06:03 PM
Nov 2020

who would truly love to fall in love and live with someone again, all the men in my dating age range want younger women, and if they want to get married, they want a trophy wife. Last guy I dated is 58 and living with a 33 year old. So men wonder why older women don't want to live with them? It's because we have a lifetime of men treating us like servants and baby-makers, and then still wanting more than we can be due to the reality of time.

Midnight Writer

(21,674 posts)
15. As an older gentleman, my experience is the opposite.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 06:07 PM
Nov 2020

The ladies I meet are often widowed or divorced and looking for a partner to accompany them through their Golden Years.

I get surprise visits from women I hardly knew, haven't seen in decades, all the way back to High School days, whose goal seems to be to let me know they are single. The worst are ones I don't remember, who seem genuinely hurt.

Of course, I am an exceptional specimen. Other's experiences may vary.

nancy1942

(635 posts)
17. How true.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:27 PM
Nov 2020

Speaking from experience here; as a widow who made the mistake of falling in love with a much older man and moving in together, now I find myself in a caregiver role for an rapidly failing man who needs constant attention I would give anything to just be alone again with my little dog and do as I please. If that means I'm selfish then so be it. I'm so stressed-out now that I can barely cope.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
18. I agree. Been there, done that, no interest in doing it again. I am Freeeeee! The thing is, from the
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:37 PM
Nov 2020

time of being little girls we are conditioned to be this and be that for others. Always considering others. Always letting everyone else be first. Nope. Now it is all me and I still have to pinch myself the feeling. Because I can. I owe no one, nothing. I do not have to smile, I am not representing a masculinity by my looks, not my job to coddle and stroke anothers ego.

Not to mention all the other stuff.

I agree.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
23. IMO this is definitely true. As a single female senior, I'm not
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:41 AM
Nov 2020

Looking for a relationship with a man, and my friends in the same demographic aren’t either.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,541 posts)
28. I'm 70 and single.
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020

A few times when a woman I found attractive crossed my path I always open with 'I'm really good at having coffee. After that, I'm not so sure................' So my goal is to find women to meet for coffee. That seems to be enough for me.

JI7

(89,235 posts)
24. Women are with men because they WANT to be instead of NEED to be . Maybe he needs to consider
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

adjusting his views/life .

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. I would never live with a woman again.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:52 AM
Nov 2020

(I am male) I need to breathe. I need to pursue my creative passion. I don't need to be owned and abused 24/7.

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