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marmar

(77,042 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:44 AM Jan 2021

Don't act surprised: Donald Trump was never going to accept the election results if he lost


Don't act surprised: Donald Trump was never going to accept the election results if he lost
Trump has no credibility when he claims the election was stolen — because he always accuses opponents of cheating

By MATTHEW ROZSA
JANUARY 3, 2021 1:00PM


(Salon) Though the media took his denial of election reality as a shock, President Donald Trump was never going to accept the results of this year's election unless he was declared the winner. He said so himself years ago.

This is the elephant in the room, the undeniable fact that demolishes his credibility when he says he was actually reelected — and, incidentally, the reason why both he and the people backing his unprecedented post-election temper tantrum will be remembered by history as forever losers. Indeed, long before the 2020 election, Trump's go-to response to even the possibility of losing any election has been to accuse the other side of cheating.

During the 2016 Republican presidential primaries, after he lost the Iowa caucuses to Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, he claimed that he wasn't actually defeated in the Hawkeye State because Cruz "stole it." He also argued that Cruz's supposed "fraud" was so egregious that "either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified." Although he moved on from his claims about Cruz after he ultimately won the GOP nomination, Trump accused Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton of doing dishonest things "at many polling places" without providing any evidence. He repeatedly insisted that the election was "rigged" against him, a point that Clinton raised during one of their debates when she observed that he even accused the Emmys of being "rigged" against him when he was snubbed for his work on "The Apprentice." During that same debate he refused to answer a question about whether he would accept the 2016 election results if they went against him, merely saying he would keep America "in suspense" and "look at it at the time." At an Ohio rally weeks before the election, Trump said that he would only accept the results of the upcoming election "if I win."

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He also repeated the same "if I lose, it's rigged" rhetoric he employed in 2016. At an August rally in Wisconsin, Trump told his supporters that "the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged." In one of his debates with Biden, the president made a number of unsubstantiated claims about voter fraud, from claiming 80 million mail-in ballots could not be securely sent in and citing examples of normal human error when it comes to managing mail as evidence of a widespread conspiracy against him to falsely claiming pro-Trump poll watchers were being banned in Pennsylvania and postal workers were selling ballots in West Virginia. Shortly before the election, Trump told Fox News' Chris Wallace that he would not "give a direct answer" about whether he'd accept election results that were unfavorable to him, instead arguing "I'm not going to just say 'yes.' I'm not going to say no and I didn't last time either." He also told Wallace that is not a "good loser" before adding that "mail-in voting is going to rig the election." ..........(more)

https://www.salon.com/2021/01/03/dont-act-surprised-donald-trump-was-never-going-to-accept-the-election-results-if-he-lost/




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Don't act surprised: Donald Trump was never going to accept the election results if he lost (Original Post) marmar Jan 2021 OP
In 17 days musclecar6 Jan 2021 #1
Just like he won't accept the results of the runoffs in GA when they get defeated soundly, duforsure Jan 2021 #2
The most awkward situation would be if Trump, at some point, actually did LET GO Mike 03 Jan 2021 #3

musclecar6

(1,684 posts)
1. In 17 days
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jan 2021


Just after noon on Jan 20, nobody is going to GAF (except the rapidly declining group of MAGA morons ) what that profoundly incompetent/ dishonest national disgrace ever has to say again.

There will always be politics at play in our democracy. That said, the voters are pretty fed up with a mentally ill unhinged nut case creating incessant chaos. Enough already.

duforsure

(11,884 posts)
2. Just like he won't accept the results of the runoffs in GA when they get defeated soundly,
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jan 2021

He's doing this to perpetuate he and his followers are the victims, and to use it as a money generator for himself. All without evidence , and getting beaten badly in a court of law, many times now. He has no evidence, and he knows this is another con job and nothing more than to raise money for his pockets. trump's a fraud, always has been, and always will be.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. The most awkward situation would be if Trump, at some point, actually did LET GO
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jan 2021

of all this and conclude, "Time to move on, let's get on with real estate, let's get back to money laundering and beauty contests." What would happen to all the parasites who, in order to win his favor, attached themselves 100% to this lost cause--everyone from Ted Cruz and Ron Johnson to Gohmert and Nunes and Gaetz?

It's hard to imagine them as sovereign beings if they didn't have the Trump Cause to fight for.

Not that it will happen. But it would be pretty to see. How long will Trump want to carry this legacy of Bitter Loser around? I mean, it's not an attractive look. He's got his "brand" to consider. And it's unbearable to hear him prattle on and on about his woes. Can you imagine trying to do a project with Trump? You'd have to listen to hours and hours of nonstop bullshit.

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