Yes, Trump Really Did Lose Michigan - WSJ Editorial
Donald Trump says fraud is the only reason he lost the 2020 election. Some even think Mr. Trump will be reinstated once the truth comes out. Anyone who finds this narrative at all appealing should take 30 minutes to read the investigative report posted last week by Michigan Republicans. Its only 35 pages.
The report is from the GOP state Senates Oversight Committee, which synthesized testimony from about 90 people, plus thousands of pages of subpoenaed documents. The committees chair, Ed McBroom, was a Trump delegate at the 2016 GOP national convention, and in 2019 he was a guest at the White House, looking on while Mr. Trump signed an executive order.
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The committee investigated 200 alleged dead voters. Only two problems were found. One was a clerical error involving a father and son with the same name. The other was an absentee ballot submitted by a 92-year-old, who then died four days before the election. That bad ballot should not have slipped through, though the report says 3,500 similar votes were caught.
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Many claims seem to stem from confusion by observers. Workers at Detroits counting center didnt need to examine ballot signatures, the report says, because that task had been done elsewhere. Detroits tabulators werent connected to the internet, but they were on a local network, which would create the same icon. If it looked as if some ballots were being fed through a scanner more than once, heres a boring reason: Ballots go through the tabulator so quickly that a simple jam or other error necessitates the entire bundle being restarted. Double counting would be obvious, as the pollbook would show that many more votes were cast than the number of people obtaining a ballot.
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The report also gives recommendations for reform. It says officials should be barred from sending unsolicited absentee ballot applications. It calls for clarifying the rights and duties of challengers and poll watchers. It suggests that ballot drop boxes be closed earlier than 8 p.m. on Election Day, so that collecting their contents does not push the counting so long into the night. Mr. Trumps response was predictable. He called the inquiry a cover up, while repeating the same nonsense about Detroit and Antrim County. Apparently Mr. Trump didnt actually read the report, but other Republicans should give it a look.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/yes-trump-really-did-lose-michigan-11625265004 (subscription)
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)Lou Dobbs Complains Actual Proof of Election Fraud Is Too Hard to Find
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lou-dobbs-complains-actual-proof-of-election-fraud-is-too-hard-to-find
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During his Fox Business broadcast Monday evening, Trump loyalist Lou Dobbs inadvertently told on himself when he asked why there is still no concrete evidence that proves the 2020 election was stolen from the outgoing president.
Eight weeks from the election, and we still dont have verifiable, tangible support for the crimes that everyone knows were committed, Dobbs said. That is, defrauding other citizens who voted with fraudulent votes. We know thats the case in Nevada, we know its the case in Pennsylvania and a number of other states, but we have had a devil of a time finding actual proof. Why?
They don't even listen to how stupid they sound.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)Yep. And we are gonna see that evidence and be totally convinced. You just wait. Mike has it. Totally.
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That seems wrong.
"an absentee ballot submitted by a 92-year-old, who then died four days before the election. That bad ballot should not have slipped through, though the report says 3,500 similar votes were caught."