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Zorro

(15,724 posts)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:43 PM Aug 2021

Unvaccinated are breaking everything--the bank, the health care system, the bonds of society

Vaccines and adequate supplies have definitely made the delta round of the COVID-19 pandemic less horrific for the doctors and nurses trying to save lives. The jeopardy for them and their families is at least reduced by the fact that the vaccine has been available to them, and they don't have to rely on personal protective equipment that's days old. But the fact that there is a vaccine and that many of the people who are filling up ICUs are there by choice adds a whole level of demoralization that didn't exist in the first round.

"It feels very different to me because it is preventable now. So, it's a very different feel in terms of the age of the patients coming in. They are getting really sick, there are a lot of people on ventilators and they are not vaccinated," Dr. Meghan McInerney, the ICU medical director at Saint Alphonsus Regional Medical Center in Boise, Idaho, said in a recent interview. "It didn't have to be this way and so with that, the air in the ICU is a little bit defeated. You know, the nurses, the doctors, the respiratory therapists, nurse practitioners, physician assistants, all the members of our team are feeling a little more deflated with this round of a COVID surge because it is a preventable illness at this point."

Nancy Roberts, a respiratory therapist with St. Luke's Hospital in Boise, concurred. "It's rough. You leave here having worked a very hard shift and trying to take care of people, and not everybody makes it. So it does, absolutely, wear you down. Just knowing that we are having a hard time keeping staff and having new people hire on those are realities, so we are doing what we can do," Roberts said. It's bad in Idaho. But magnify that several thousands of times in Florida, and you can understand why this is happening: Doctors are walking out.

Nitesh N. Paryani, a radiation oncologist in Tampa, tries to shed light on what's happening in his hospital and to send a dire warning to all those people refusing vaccines: "The unvaccinated are killing people in ways they probably never imagined."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/23/2047685/-Burned-out-frustrated-and-missing-healthcare-workers-intensify-new-COVID-19-crisis

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Unvaccinated are breaking everything--the bank, the health care system, the bonds of society (Original Post) Zorro Aug 2021 OP
All true. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #1
My wife is a nurse at one of those hospitals cited in this post. yonder Aug 2021 #2
++ Amen, the awful reality of this gd crisis appalachiablue Aug 2021 #6
have the medical staff who are vaccine avoidant given reasons? traladeda Aug 2021 #7
True yes I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #3
"The unvaccinated are killing people in ways they probably never imagined." louslobbs Aug 2021 #4
Unvaccinated should be triaged to a "spirit tent" with Fox on a big screen. Baked Potato Aug 2021 #5
Sociopathy is the disease Moebym Aug 2021 #8
I frequently hear the "bad reaction" excuse. The truth is.... littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #9

yonder

(9,657 posts)
2. My wife is a nurse at one of those hospitals cited in this post.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:57 PM
Aug 2021

It isn't just the patients who are anti-mask/vax. There are plenty of nurses and a few doctors who belong to that group too. Some have submitted resignations in order to avoid next months vaccine requirements.

I just don't get it.

traladeda

(48 posts)
7. have the medical staff who are vaccine avoidant given reasons?
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 08:29 PM
Aug 2021

I always wonder what reason medical professionals give for being vaccine avoidant. And is it vaccines generally or specifically this one? Obviously, being in the medical field doesn't automatically exempt them from irrational beliefs, logical fallacies, and/or tribalism ...but...well, I wonder what a Venn diagram of anti-vaccine/avoidant medical personal, right-wing authoritarian followers, and republican voters would look like.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
3. True yes
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:00 PM
Aug 2021

But what are we going to do about it.

Take the anti vaxxers to a field hospital set up seperately from the hospital.

They would be staffed by unvaxxed nurses and doctors.

Let them be uncomfortable on cots in the summer heat and other weather.

Leave the regular hospitals open for vaxxed people and kids too young to be vaxxed with corona. Leave the beds open for vaxxed people with other health issues,accidents and operations that need to be done..

Let the unvaxxed adults know why they are in the tent and have to work in the tent.
Because they are unvaccinated and are a danger to others.

louslobbs

(3,229 posts)
4. "The unvaccinated are killing people in ways they probably never imagined."
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:05 PM
Aug 2021

These are selfish people who lack introspection. If they imagined that what they were doing was killing people, they would be thrilled as long as it was killing their perceived enemies….if it was killing people they like, that would be ok too, chalked up to collateral damage. If they got sick, they would run to the hospital and expect everyone to drop everything to save their sorry ass.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
5. Unvaccinated should be triaged to a "spirit tent" with Fox on a big screen.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 05:07 PM
Aug 2021

There, they can whoop it up with like-minded folk and selfishly pray that their god shows up on their watch.

There can be inspirational standees of Dump, Pillow, Tucker, and Mo to give them comfort while they turn blue.

*semi parody*

littlemissmartypants

(22,594 posts)
9. I frequently hear the "bad reaction" excuse. The truth is....
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 12:21 PM
Aug 2021
“Around 5 in a million people experience what appears to be a severe allergic reaction to the Covid-19 vaccines,” said David Stukus, MD, a Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Allergy and Immunology at Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus, Ohio.

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...the chance of getting an allergic reaction from a Covid-19 shot is similar to having been struck by lightning since the pandemic started, where the chances are 2 in a million, annually.

Snip...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/08/19/what-are-the-medical-exemptions-for-not-getting-a-covid-19-vaccine/?sh=72fcbc5544c5


There's simply no good reason not to get vaccinated. The doctors know that and have no facks left to give. I agree with them and they deserve our support.

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