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Yes, I'm really getting tired of this... (Original Post) lees1975 Mar 2023 OP
Absolutely! Dale in Laurel MD Mar 2023 #1
Totally agree! Karadeniz Mar 2023 #2
The great pushback can commence any time now EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #3
Dunno zipplewrath Mar 2023 #4
It's hard to find four paragraphs to post and maintain the continuity of this particular article. lees1975 Mar 2023 #6
We are the generation that's had to learn a hard lesson zipplewrath Mar 2023 #7
I am sick of bigotry in all its forms. I don't understand how the GQP touts our "JudeoChristian" LoisB Mar 2023 #5
So we'll stated wendyb-NC Mar 2023 #8
What if... NullTuples Mar 2023 #9

EYESORE 9001

(25,908 posts)
3. The great pushback can commence any time now
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 07:33 PM
Mar 2023

This pushback against antisemitism and the whole host of evils amplified by MAGA will occur, undoubtedly. I’m sensing that the point where decent folk announce, ‘enough! No more!’ is close at hand.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
4. Dunno
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 07:54 PM
Mar 2023

You realize that you are allowed to post excerpts up to 4 paragraphs right? Unless your intent was to generate traffic to the site.

lees1975

(3,841 posts)
6. It's hard to find four paragraphs to post and maintain the continuity of this particular article.
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 11:33 PM
Mar 2023

But I'll try---

There are Jewish Americans who are making plans to flee the country, fearing a wave of anti-Semitic persecution which they perceive is a moral danger to them and to their families. The absolute awfulness of coming to grips with the fact that American Jews, American Jews, are facing a renewal of something that humanity should have completely wiped off the face of the earth at the end of World War 2 literally makes my stomach churn.

Nor can I understand the bigotry and anti-Semitism that I see which still pervades our culture. I was raised in a small Baptist church, Southern Baptist, where the inconsistency between what the Christian gospel teaches about the nature of God and the words and actions of many of the church members never made sense. They could read those places in the gospels and epistles of the New Testament where no distinction is made between human beings when it comes to the application of the love of God, but at the same time, voice the opinion that people who weren't white were inferior and not entitled to the same consideration, because their theology somehow excluded those people, on that basis, from themselves.

I doubt that very many Americans make any kind of realistic distinction between Ukrainians and Russians. But those who seem to be more sympathetic to the Russians, and who use the excuse of the cost of providing aid to Ukraine as an excuse for their position, also seem to be many of the same anti-Semitic bigots and racists when it comes to African Americans and Jews, at least, those involved in government seem to be that way.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. We are the generation that's had to learn a hard lesson
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 11:57 PM
Mar 2023

What we thought we "defeated" in WWII, and what we thought we ended with the civil rights movement, didn't really go away. The American Civil war "ended" slavery, but it brought forth the KKK and they "ruled" for another 100 years. Bigotry, antisemitism, and for that matter misogyny, never really go away. It morphs, hides, and redefines its methods, but it is always there and all one can do is continue to expose it in all its forms, generation after generation.

LoisB

(7,186 posts)
5. I am sick of bigotry in all its forms. I don't understand how the GQP touts our "JudeoChristian"
Thu Mar 9, 2023, 10:19 PM
Mar 2023

founding (which is absolutely untrue) yet embraces anti-Semitisim.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
9. What if...
Fri Mar 10, 2023, 12:55 PM
Mar 2023
"I was raised in a small Baptist church, Southern Baptist, where the inconsistency between what the Christian gospel teaches about the nature of God and the words and actions of many of the church members never made sense."


What if conservative religion is all just a facade, a construct that is sold as a subculture that provides a way to appear kind and generous while implicitly granting permission to wield power over others?

And what if it's such a big part of their cultural tradition at this point that, within those communities, it provides the framework for rock solid cognitive dissonance? What if it gives them exactly what they need to believe they are good, "Godly" people while simultaneously doing the other thing?
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