Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:31 AM Aug 2012

"PANIC! - MSM: "Romney is in Big, Big, Trouble" - daily kos

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/12/1119510/-PANIC-MSM-Romney-is-in-Big-Big-Trouble

"The Florida papers are destroying Ryan. So much so that a distraught and panicked Village believes "Romney is in big, big trouble" for selecting the man who wants to pull the plug on Grandma.

Rolling out your vice presidential nominee is one of the most crucial aspects of every campaign, and from judging from the headlines, Romney has completely blown it.

On the evening news, a visibly shaken Chuck Todd reported the 2012 campaign has not touched on Medicare, but now, all of the sudden, it is front and center, and it will be a big part of voters' decisions in November.

Todd is the quintessential political reporter. He phones around Washington and interviews the establishment players, who are largely Republican, and then synthesizes their inside views and reports it as conventional wisdom. "

snip

I saw chuckie on NBC nightly news...he didn't look happy....he haz a sad!

16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"PANIC! - MSM: "Romney is in Big, Big, Trouble" - daily kos (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 OP
Danger Danger! NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #1
helloooo, pal! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #3
I think it is fatal to McCrory in NC unc70 Aug 2012 #10
Like! I have never seen this one. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #7
Chuckie Tard unhappy? How will I ever sleep tonight? n/t brewens Aug 2012 #2
Chuck Turd wasn't unhappy when Mitt asked for a "truce" rocktivity Aug 2012 #5
Like "Chuckles" or any of them would want a truce. The want the fur to fly! n/t brewens Aug 2012 #12
Is it true that the Romney campaign cencelled a Ryan appearance in Florida? BlueStreak Aug 2012 #4
Yes it is true. See the link below Tx4obama Aug 2012 #6
Thank you. That is interesting. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #8
We've paid for it twice. fasttense Aug 2012 #13
Interesting way to look at it. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #14
can you say death panels? pansypoo53219 Aug 2012 #9
The Romney campaign is one big death panel davidpdx Aug 2012 #11
Thanks for posting--every bit of hope is welcome!!! K&R hue Aug 2012 #15
Social Security? Medicare? Is it possible this will eyewall Aug 2012 #16

unc70

(6,110 posts)
10. I think it is fatal to McCrory in NC
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:38 AM
Aug 2012

I posted over in the NC group. Think Ryan threatens McCrory (R for NC governor) and his carefully cultivated non-scary Republican persona.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
4. Is it true that the Romney campaign cencelled a Ryan appearance in Florida?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:49 AM
Aug 2012

If so, maybe they have decided they had better take a few days to figure out how they are going to deal with this.

Killing Medicare and Social Security objectionable to Floridians? Who could have ever seen that coming?

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
8. Thank you. That is interesting.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:12 AM
Aug 2012

But considering that Romney is hitting other cities in Florida, that sounds like they just don't have time to catch the Orlando event, or perhaps the planning for that particular event wasn't very solid. That can happen.

What is much more interesting is that Romney isn't bringing Ryan with him. Considering the rough reception the announcement has received in the Florida press, it may be awhile before they risk taking Ryan into that minefield.

But here's a new flash. People get old in Iowa too. And Ohio. And Arizona. And Virginia.

Florida should actually be LESS of an issue, because so many of the Floridians are already past age 55, and the Ryan budget theoretically wouldn't affect them -- although it seems like that may turn out to be yet another lie.

The people who should be the most concerned about this are those age 45-55 who have already paid in a heap of money for Social Security and Medicare and could end up getting next to nothing in return.

Remember -- these are insurance programs funded by our premiums. We have already paid for these programs. Keep your hands off them.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
13. We've paid for it twice.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:52 AM
Aug 2012

We, Baby Boomers, were the 1st generation to not only pay for our parents Social Security, but for our own retirement as well. In 1983 Ronnie Raygun (with the help of handy dandy GreenSpan) doubled our Social Security withholdings and put it in the Social Security Trust Fund. What's in the Trust Fund is what is suppose to pay for our retirement. We've paid for our parents, now it's time to pay ourselves and NOT the uber rich banksters.

Paul Ryan would give your pre-paid (twice) retirement to Wall Street.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
14. Interesting way to look at it.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:28 AM
Aug 2012

It isn't 100% true, but still a very good point that I have never heard brought up. I say it is not 100% true because the structure of the program is such that most of the outflow is paid through CURRENT contributions. In other words, it is inherent in the program that the next generation pays the benefits for the current generation.

But you still have a valid point because the program did require the establishment of quite a large fund in order to cover the boomers as we age. "We did build that." So in that sense, boomers really did pay for their parents' benefits and also funded a good percentage of our own benefits.

eyewall

(674 posts)
16. Social Security? Medicare? Is it possible this will
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:04 PM
Aug 2012

break through the Wall of Stupid that surrounds every republican voter?

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»"PANIC! - MSM: "...