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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:56 AM Aug 2012

Hospitals look to become insurers

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2012/August/26/hospital-insurers.aspx

Michael Dowling, a burly Ireland native running one of New York’s largest hospital networks, is preparing to turn his business model on its head: He wants to keep his hospital beds empty, rather than full.

That’s because the North Shore-LIJ Health System, with 16 hospitals and more than 300 outpatient centers in Long Island and New York City, is laying the groundwork to be an insurer, as well as a provider of health care.

Like other hospital chains across the country, it’s under intense pressure from public and private insurers, as well as employers, to accept flat-rate payments for care, rather than reimbursements for every service. And that puts pressure on hospitals not just to manage costs, but to keep people well – in short, to act more like insurers.

“This is a huge, dramatic cultural shift,” said Dowling, president and CEO of North Shore-LIJ, who expects it will take several years to market coverage to the general public.

Once the system becomes an insurer, picking up the tab for a hospitalization rather than generating revenue from it, more resources will be devoted to preventive care, Dowling said.
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Hospitals look to become insurers (Original Post) antigop Aug 2012 OP
The Affordable Care Act includes incentives for them to do just that. Hoyt Aug 2012 #1
UPMC in Pittsburgh does it ............ mrmpa Aug 2012 #2
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. The Affordable Care Act includes incentives for them to do just that.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 10:00 AM
Aug 2012

Conceptually, it's a good thing.

How it will actually work in practice, tough to say. It's actually little more than a hospital controlled HMO (other health care providers could do the same, but right now hospitals have the money to do it).

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
2. UPMC in Pittsburgh does it ............
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:50 AM
Aug 2012

that's the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. They own all but about 4 hospitals in the area. They are currently in a hostile environment with Highmark Blue Cross Shield, because Highmark just bought 2 hospitals. What it is as Hoyt say it's a hospital controlled HMO.

I personally dislike UPMC hospitals. I had knee replacement at a UPMC, the care was terrible, I could describe it in paragraphs, but I won't. Suffice it to say I will stay away from their hospitals as much as I can.

On Friday about 3 p.m. during my stay, I heard laughter in the Halls and Nurses talking to each other (something I hadn't heard earlier in the week). This told me that the UPMC administrators were now gone for the weekend, and tension had eased up.

SEIU is in a fight to organize at UPMC hospitals, and UPMC is fighting them with no restraint.

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