Gun Nuts to Build 2,000 Acre Citadel in Idaho’s American Redoubt

[Tx4obama]

Gun Nuts to Build 2,000 Acre Citadel in Idaho’s American Redoubt

We’ve all heard of gated communities. We’ve all heard about the Second Amendment. Have you ever wondered what happens when you put the two together? How about a fortified community? That’s the latest right-wing tactic.

CNS News reports that, ” A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.”

Notice the keywords used:

American exceptionalism

armed community

liberty

Yes, the worst elements of the Second and Tenth Amendments have come together in the creation of a monstrous American afterbirth.

According to CNS,

The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho. The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who “voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson’s ideal of Rightful Liberty.”

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/gun-nuts-build-2000-acre-citadel-idahos-american-redoubt.html

Note: Be sure to scroll down the whole page at the link above.

[Warpy]

1. A bunch of lunatics in a double walled compound in the middle of nowhere

What could possibly go wrong?

[lunasun]

4. at least they will all be in one place! Or is this a $$ scheme and deposits given ,

while nothing gets builts
What about the porcs = I thought they were doing this already somewhere? freestateproject

[kestrel91316]

2. There are only about 150 houses in all its neighborhoods. How they gonna cram

3500-7000 families in there???

That won't end well.

[Warpy]

13. Right, they're either going to have to be dormitories

or big apartment house "neighborhoods." You know, instant slums. People crammed together like that will just add another stressor.

[SpartanDem]

43. Slums? You mean "freedom hovels".

[Neoma]

55. 1+

[2pooped2pop]

77. Amphitheater? How many times can one watch Dirty Harry? n/t

[Arctic Dave]

3. A farmers market but no farms?

Another Rsndian fantasy destined to horrible failure.

[Squinch]

18. They have a gun factory, but no food source. Dumbfoxistan rules! For a very short time!

[bongbong]

58. Raiding parties

They will take their Preciouses and go to surrounding areas and "liberate" goods for their "Farmer's Market".

[jmowreader]

72. The "surrounding area" is Archie's IGA

Their first problem is there's nowhere in Benewah County to build that thing unless (maybe not even then) they plan on clearing lots of forested land. Second problem is there's only farming on the reservation, where they can't build. Plus, the main crops are wheat and bluegrass.

This is like the cartoon about the day after Atlas Shrugged when they realize no one in Galt's Gulch brought any food.

[Kip Humphrey]

5. Aw,,, where's Boot Hill?

[shraby]

6. They're building their own private FEMA camp!!

[lastlib]

11. DUzy!!

[Squinch]

16. .

[cheapdate]

7. Stone defensive walls really lost much of their effectiveness

around the 1300s or so when the use of cannons became commonplace. They're gonna "make a stand" against a modern armored regiment? Give me a fucking break. The place is destined for bankruptcy. A few scattered houses in a huge, unbuilt, planned development in the middle of nowhere.

[Warpy]

14. Think of a few daisy cutters

That would be even more effective than tanks or artillery.

[Dash87]

20. The sheer fail of this is funny.

"Let's build a gigantic piece of artillery-bait in the middle of nowhere (easy access for armor is important), and have only a limited number of exits. It'll work out splendid!"

[physioex]

56. Even before the cannons....

Another piece of engineering sling shot mechanism called a trebuchet could easily take down a castle.

[TheMadMonk]

62. No, not easily. Eventually.

Slowly enough, that castle walls were still being errected long after the invention of any number of seige weapons and structures designed to take them down.

[drm604]

8. Sounds collectivist and anti-capitalist to me.

“The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson’s Rightful Liberty.”

Citadel says that every patriot selected to live within the community “will voluntarily agree to follow the footsteps of our Founding Fathers by swearing to one another our lives, our fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Liberty against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

[woodsprite]

28. Swearing "their fortunes", isn't that redistributed wealth? n/t

[cheapdate]

34. "Not profit-driven" sounds to me like a polite way to say 'for profit'. n/t

[drm604]

36. Seems like the opposite of it to me.

You may be right, but if so then it seems odd that a supposedly libertarian organization feels the need to obscure the fact that they're for profit. You would think that they'd be proud of being profit-driven.

[Paladin]

9. Toss One String Of Firecrackers Over The Wall On A Saturday Night.....

.....I think you can guess how things go from there at The Citadel.

[Politicub]

10. Creating a closed in compound to protect their liberty?

Sound like crazy town, USA to me.

Seriously - it would be awesome if the gun nuts were to sequester themselves and live in Firearmlandia.

[Botany]

12. And what pray tell are they going to do for jobs and money?

And they are inside their double walled community to protect their liberties w/ a
firearms museum and a reflecting pool .......

While they best not have any churches there because as Tommy Jefferson said:

"Thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Oh well if they all want to go live together in a walled community I say more power
to 'em.

[Warpy]

15. Yeah, all we need to do is weld the gate shut

and put up a "Citadel Asylum" sign.

[Squinch]

17. Citadel Zoo.

"Please don't feed the animals."

[Warpy]

22. Please, we're not heartless

We'll feed them. The price of food will be their guns, starting with the ugly military style guns with the big magazines.

[Squinch]

47. You are nicer than I am, Warpy!

[DetlefK]

31. Alesia.

The decisive battle of Cesar's Gaul-campaign. The Gauls, led by Vercingetorix, holed up against the Romans in a heavily defended fortress.

The Gauls expected a massive Roman onslaught. Every day they readied themselves for war and put on war-paint.
What did Cesar do? His army built their own fortifications (mainly tranches), completely surrounding the fortress, and simply waited for them to run out of food.
In the end, it was the Gauls who attacked first.
It was a pitched battle, but in the end the gaulic freedom-fighters were defeated by the disciplined and battle-hardened war-machine that was the Roman Army.

[bongbong]

59. Their money

will come in the form of monthly checks from the taxpayer in various forms, like Social Security, veterans' benefits, disability benefits, medicare, etc etc etc.

Bet on it.

[Dash87]

19. Wow. What a great place to hide if you're running from the law.

No background checks, hostile to police, guns everywhere to defend. This will work out marvelously.

[OswegoAtheist]

21. I'm totally stealing this map for my next D&D campaign.

Oswego "Also, does it seem like "gun museum" is their "clever" way of disguising what is obviously going to be a stockpile?" Atheist

[YayArea]

23. I wonder if they're gonna higher illegal immingrants to build their castle.

[Turborama]

26. *hire

[Democracyinkind]

74. *force

[YayArea]

24. Oh..and by the way...

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

[Turborama]

25. Waco 2.0?

With drones and sound canons.

[MichaelHarris]

27. I bet they get

a Hobby Lobby and a Papa John's Pizza.

[think]

33. I'd add Dominos to that list but that guy already built his own city:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria,_Florida

[bongbong]

60. Too bad they're not closer together

Then the two groups could get in a war and use their Preciouses.

On second thought, they're too cowardly to actually shoot at something that might fire back.

[gordianot]

29. Brilliant idea a collective truly worthy of Communalism.

No need to worry about diversity, living together in coexistence or getting along. Like minded people all in one place by mutual consent you could have varieties on the theme with religious fundamentalist, Ditto head, GOP, etc. , all in compounds in a true collective made to order. I should be looking for the cynic collective that believes the human species is a dead end, HOW DEPRESSING!

[Democracyinkind]

75. They believe that it's not collectivist if all inhabitants are white.

This is what gets me about this type of RW. They're collectivists, when you come right down to it and look at their social utopias carefully. It doesn't hit them because they associate "communism" and "collectivism" with "foreign, dark, brown", whatever. This never stops to intruige me.

[Scuba]

30. Scamming gun nuts out of their money. I approve.

[Blue_Tires]

50. Must be a neverending supply of disposable income for them or something

After GOP fundraisers, the local church, etc etc...

[think]

32. We can only hope

that gun nuts from across the nation make the pilgrimage there and stay......

[sky imager]

35. But somethng is missing...

I don't see the shrine for the weapons god they can all pray to...

[CanonRay]

37. Apparently we're going back to the Middle Ages

or beyond that. It looks like a walled medieval city. York: 1250 A.D. Wait till the fundies see there is no church...

[Demo_Chris]

38. It's a serious bizarre project and almost sounds like a scam

Never mind that the numbers don't add up, the rules themselves are ludicrous. I would say disturbing, but they are too ridiculous for that.

Beck's idea is far more likely to get off the ground.

[malthaussen]

39. I was sure this was from the Onion.

Poe's Law strikes again.

-- Mal

[malthaussen]

40. Always thought it was funny that gun nuts are feudalists...

... since it was guns that brought down feudalism. (I simplify, much) But then, who by now is surprised at the ability of crazies to believe two mutually-contradictory things at the same time?

-- Mal

[marmar]

41. ..........

[neverforget]

42. Looks like a prison to me.....n/t

[meow2u3]

46. Looks to me more like a cult compound.....nt

[neverforget]

63. That too

[SpartanDem]

45. Where do I mail the Kool-Aid?

[Blue_Tires]

48. Is that a kid's drawing or something?

Where are the roads? Room for parking? What about a traffic plan so the one single gate doesn't become a bottleneck? What about running water? Food? Healthcare? Electricity? Administration? Telephone/internet? Cable TV? Garbage disposal and sewage management? Clothing and other basic needs?-- What person or persons would actually be in charge? Who would residents go to if they had a problem? I know there will be a huge vault for everyone to store their gold coins, but who is in charge of that? How will people get around the compound, other than walking?

Of course, I should have asked from the start: Who in fuck's name would pay for all of this?

[muriel_volestrangler]

49. Genuine comment on the site from a prospective tenant:

(and yes, I've checked this name - you can find it associated with far right gun comments on other sites in Google - this person is real, and approvingly referenced by other gun nuts):

ASheepleNoMoreDecember 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Are their any contigency plans if TSHTF before Citadel is up and running? For example, if a person purchases a lease on either a house or a lot, and TSHTF before anything had been built,etc. would they be able to bug-out to the land already purchased and meet-up with others? As I write this, reports are coming in about a mass school shooting at an elementary school in Newton, Conn; 18 dead. DHS is getting so desperate that they are starting to kill our children. I don't think we have time to wait on Citadel being completed before TSHTF.

Alan S. Pedersen
Fort Mill, SC
"American by birth, Southern by the Grace of God"

May Obama and his minions rot in hell!

http://iiicitadel.blogspot.com/2012/12/status-update.html?showComment=1355513663207#c1255761635749812306

Yep, paranoid birtherism is a residency requirement ...

[Botany]

61. awesome web site

Last edited Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

Well, western Idaho is pretty safe as far as hurricanes are concerned talk about nut job central

[Paladin]

68. Hey, Gun Enthusiasts: What's A "Safe Queen" Firearm?

The Citadel website has an AR-15 rifle and a 1911 pistol for sale, and they say that these are not "Safe Queen" guns. Care to illuminate this term for us? Sounds interesting.

[Paladin]

69. Never Mind. I Found Out What It Means.

When Gun Enthusiasts refer to a "safe queen," they mean a firearm that they don't use with any regularity, i.e., a gun that stays stashed in their gun safes for long periods of time (generally a year or more) without being fired. Not nearly as salacious a definition as I was hoping for, but there you go.

Full disclosure: I guess pretty much all my guns are "safe queens." Suits me.

[Botany]

65. From their web site

Additionally, we plan on forming our own bank that will issue Citadel coins in silver and gold.

[Mr.Bill]

51. These are the people who won't follow the rules

of the HOA where they live now.

[louis-t]

52. What? It's not called the 'Reagan Amphitheatre'?

Shame!

[Speck Tater]

53. Load the place up with surveillance cameras

and it could make a hell of a funny reality TV show.

I see a farmer's market, but where are the farms? If you had a nearby farm, would you want to shlep your organic produce into the "compound" to sell to a bunch of pistol-packing lunatics? I guess they figure that after the crash they will be the new feudal lords.

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. I just HAVE to ...

finish reading the comments.

I had to stop with the guy that posted that he and his "interracial" family have lived in the Bay area and several other highly diverse cities (not his words) and has found Idaho (the home of the last big white supremacist camp) to be the "least racist state."

I've got to read more ... Laughing is good medicine.

[bongbong]

57. The post office will have lots of incoming mail

Checks from the Federal Government.

You don't think these leeches can actually support themselves, do you?

[TheMadMonk]

64. Punchline to an old joke: Now fill it with water.

Seriously let the idiots go ahead.

Push comes to shove, their kids are a small price to pay for sanity. THEY have most certainly made it abundantly clear that no number of OUR kids are too great a price to pay for the opposite.

[Dash87]

67. Fill it with lava

What's funny, though, is that this is a clear scam to get idiots' money.

"The Citadel..." Lmao

[sanatanadharma]

66. I've seen the future and know...

...how it unfolds. The citadel stands until breached by the Postman

[a la izquierda]

70. Aww a museum and reflecting pool.

They can all reflect on the point at which they lost their minds.

[IDemo]

71. A farmers market, but no farms?

Maybe if they utilize the arms factory ground for tomatoes instead?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

73. No flaming bales of hay lobbed over the wall by trebuchets???

That's no fun.

Yes, I saw "Kingdom of Heaven". Catapults too!!!

No portcullis at the gate?

[2on2u]

76. How many drones will be assigned to this little arena?

[flying rabbit]

78. I doubt if it could withstand

a large wooden rabbit.