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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:22 PM Mar 2013

Obama: Last of the "New Democrats"? (Salon)

Last edited Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:00 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/30/obama_last_of_the_new_democrats/

Our times demand visionary leadership. The moderate progressivism of Clinton and Obama isn't up to the task

“I am a New Democrat,” Barack Obama told the New Democrat Coalition back in March 2009. Whether he wins a second term or is defeated, the first black president of the United States may be not only the second but also the last of the New Democrats in the White House.

Between the 1980s and the present, the so-called New Democrats have existed in two distinct forms. In the early 1980s, the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was formed, chiefly by white Southern and Western Democratic politicians, with the goal of winning back “Reagan Democrats” — white working-class members of the dying Roosevelt coalition, who combined support for universal social programs like Social Security and Medicare with hawkish military attitudes and socially conservative values on attitudes like abortion, censorship and gay rights. Early in its history, the DLC proposed a program of educational and other benefits for young Americans in return for national military or civilian service, along the lines of the G.I. Bill.

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As presidents, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama have both reflected the priorities of the second New Democrat coalition, uniting donors from Wall Street, Hollywood and Silicon Valley with a “new majority” coalition of racial minorities, immigrants, liberal women and young voters. Because Democratic voters are disproportionately poor, this has produced a Democratic Party that, in economic terms, is an hourglass coalition of the top and the bottom. Economic populism frightens the party’s billionaire donors, while social populism, which has often been associated with white working-class xenophobia, racism and religiosity, frightens blacks, Latinos, immigrants and white social liberals. The result is what Mike Konczal and others have called “pity-charity” liberalism — a kind of liberalism that appeals to the sympathy of the rich for the poor, rather than appealing, as the New Deal did, to solidarity among the middling majority. It was a version of progressivism ill-suited to the Great Recession, which demanded the visionary leadership of a Franklin Roosevelt, not the managerial competence of a Nelson Rockefeller.


Let us pray.
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Obama: Last of the "New Democrats"? (Salon) (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 OP
Get ready for 8 years of Hillary! limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #1
It's inevitable again! nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #2
K&R Teamster Jeff Mar 2013 #3
So long as citizens united stands, New Dems are the only hope n/t n2doc Mar 2013 #4
Citizen's United is an abomination that should be stricken MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #11
As times get tougher the people turn toward the more conservative candidates rhett o rick Mar 2013 #5
I agree. MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #10
Dear God, I hope so Demeter Mar 2013 #6
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Mar 2013 #7
You really wanted Romney... hay rick Mar 2013 #8
Thank you. MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #9
...with a Sarah Palin or Rand Paul chaser. kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #16
I'm already signed up for Paul's 2016 campaign MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #17
Agreed! Phlem Mar 2013 #12
Amen. n/t truebluegreen Mar 2013 #13
we have 3 years to come up with candidate who is a liberal/progressive, unlike of Hillary nt msongs Mar 2013 #14
Perhaps... MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #15
no, no, didn't you get the memo? It's "inevitable". (sarcasm) nt antigop Mar 2013 #18
They'll just rebrand themselves to try and fool us again. blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #19
I don't know how many drones & torture centers & SS cuts & anti-union & anti-education initiatives Doctor_J Mar 2013 #20
Please please please???? Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2013 #21
Reagan Democrats olddots Mar 2013 #22
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
11. Citizen's United is an abomination that should be stricken
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 08:38 PM
Mar 2013

That being said, I suspect that it may not be such a big deal. It sure didn't help the Dark Side in 2012.

Information is becoming more decentralized, more difficult to control.

I hope.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. As times get tougher the people turn toward the more conservative candidates
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:56 PM
Mar 2013

that offer them snake oil. IMO this progression will continue until we either go for a dictator like Hitler or a Democrat like Roosevelt.

I am going to pass on the prayer. I save my prayers for meaningful things, like winning the lotto.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
10. I agree.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 08:36 PM
Mar 2013

Some time ago I came to the conclusion that this is what happens, time and time again through history - we get to choose the abyss or a renewal. Possibly the only thing we can do now is to help ensure that we go FDR instead of Hitler.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
19. They'll just rebrand themselves to try and fool us again.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:50 AM
Mar 2013

The "Democratic" part is a sick joke. They're just socially moderate 80's Republicans with a slick veneer and a slicker speechwriter.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
20. I don't know how many drones & torture centers & SS cuts & anti-union & anti-education initiatives
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:24 AM
Mar 2013

the party can take. I guess we will find out in 2014 and 2016.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
22. Reagan Democrats
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:31 PM
Mar 2013

that's like military intelligence .
Mort Saul ( when he was cool) used to draw a circle showing how the extreme left were right next to the extreme right ,30 years later the center got pushed to the right .
Now how do we get the center back to center ? I'll still be way left of center as some here will be centrist but our bearings will be true.

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