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Why Do We Have an Espionage Act?
Why Do We Have an Espionage Act?by Ira Chernus * Friday, August 2, 2013 * Common Dreams
Military justice is to justice as military music is to music. In a civilian court, anyone accused of a crime has the right to trial by a jury of their peers. In the military, a soldier accused of a very serious crime can be tried without any jury at all. In a civilian court, the judge explains the decision as soon as its handed down. In the military, the judge just announces the decision and passes sentence.
In Bradley Mannings case, Judge Denise Lind did say she would issue findings later that would explain her ruling on each of the charges. We dont know how long later may be. All we know now is that Judge Lind does not think Manning was aiding the enemy.
Which raises an interesting question: If you take classified documents, but you dont do it to help some enemy, apparently you havent done any harm to the United States. So why is it a crime? Why does it count as spying at all? I always thought spying meant one side stealing secrets from the other side.
Manning said he did it on behalf of a nationhis own. He did it on behalf of all of us. I havent heard of any reason to doubt him. Yet hes getting applause only at the left end of the political spectrum. Across the rest of the spectrum the responses range from uncertainty to outright condemnation. So the public verdict on Manning, like the judges verdict, is decidedly mixed: Hero to some, traitor to others, an AP story called him.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/08/02-5
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Why Do We Have an Espionage Act? (Original Post)
99th_Monkey
Aug 2013
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Downwinder
(12,869 posts)1. Why Do We Have an Espionage Act?
It used to be to keep labor leaders in line. Debs, Haywood,
Warpy
(111,244 posts)2. They just forgot to revoke it after WWI
It's an anachronism whose time was up many decades ago.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)3. Theyre fishing for tips on good porn sites?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)4. The question should be why do we have acts of espionage.