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Zorro

(15,722 posts)
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:38 PM Aug 2013

What did Edward Snowden get wrong? Everything

Edward Snowden is now out of his limbo at Moscow's airport, presumably ensconced in some Russian dacha, wondering what the next phase of his young life will bring. Having spent 30 years in the intelligence business, I fervently hope the food is lousy, the winter is cold, and the Internet access is awful. But I worry less about what happens to this one man and more about the damage Snowden has done — and could still do — to America's long-term ability to strike the right balance between privacy and security.

Ever since Snowden, a former contractor for the National Security Agency, leaked top-secret material about its surveillance programs, he and the U.S. government have locked horns about the nature of those programs.

But those following the Snowden saga should understand two key points. First, though many things need to be kept secret in today's dangerous world, the line between "secret" and "not secret" is fuzzy rather than stark, and if the goal is security, the harsh truth is that we should often err toward more secrets rather than fewer. Second, despite the grumbling from Snowden and his admirers, the U.S. government truly does make strenuous efforts not to violate privacy, not just because it respects privacy (which it does), but because it simply doesn't have the time to read irrelevant emails or listen in on conversations unconnected to possible plots against American civilians.

Incidents like the Snowden affair put my former colleagues in the intelligence community in an impossible position. Yes, the official explanations about the virtues of data-collection efforts can sound self-justifying and vague. But they're still right. I know firsthand that Gen. Keith Alexander, the NSA director, is telling the truth when he talks about plots that have been preempted and attacks that have been foiled because of intelligence his agency collected. I know because I was on the inside, I have long held security clearances, and I participated in many of the activities he describes.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-0811-liepman-snowden-and-classified-informat-20130811,0,2610260.story

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Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. The author is FROM within the NSA...
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:50 PM
Aug 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Counterterrorism_Center
Principal Deputy Directors
Arthur M. Cummings (2004–05)
Kevin R. Brock (2005–07)
Michael E. Leiter (2007–08)
Geoff O'Connell (2008–2011)
Andrew Liepman (2011–2012)
Nicholas J. Rasmussen (2012–Present)

...therefore he cannot be taken at his word, since he is duty-bound to lie about the program.

Moral Compass

(1,513 posts)
4. Great that this garbage was ignored by DU
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

I was afraid I'd see a pile on and hundreds of responses. Instead this self-justifying, vague essay was simply seen as what it is and ignored. Kudos.

Zorro

(15,722 posts)
8. I think it's an illuminating read on the needs and the conflicts of the data collection process
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 09:58 AM
Aug 2013

written by an expert.

Do you think the government should be engaged in ferreting out terrorists? If so, I'm interested in hearing your plan on how to do so. Please explain.

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alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. You and your colleagues are criminals
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 06:33 PM
Aug 2013

Just admit that you don't like civil liberties and be done with it.

Zorro

(15,722 posts)
10. I trust President Obama's and Al Franken's assessments
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:00 PM
Aug 2013

over loudmouthed know-nothings that offer no alternatives.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
11. Then why is he free, and everyone debating exactly what he wanted us to?
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 11:57 PM
Aug 2013

Sounds like he got the important things right anyway.

 

ehcross

(166 posts)
13. Americans should revise their concept of security. 9/11 is long gone. But Al Kaeda is still around.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 10:47 AM
Oct 2013

The tragic events on 9/11 created the need for substantially enhancing security at U.S. transit points and elsewhere. So far so good. But the root cause is still there, dormant, as all tragedies are. Now the U.S. lost an extremely valuable asset, only to have Edward Snowden exposing to the world the very secrets he helped develop that would guarantee America's security. Vulnerability is again a frightening reality.

Snowden became a hero to enemies of the U.S. but, frighteningly also to way too many Americans. The press is full of Americans praising Edward Snowden as a patriot and exposing to our enemies the sad reality of a profoundly divided America.

Odd events like the debt-ceiling debate are cause for major concern to Americans and to the world. This is a first to the great majority of Americans.









Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
14. "strike the right balance between privacy and security"!!!
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 11:14 AM
Oct 2013

"Why can't I hold in all this apologia" - Andrew Liepman

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. The emphasis
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:16 AM
Oct 2013
Unfortunately, during the Snowden affair, many news outlets have spent more time examining ways the government could abuse the information it has access to while giving scant mention to the lengths to which the intelligence community goes to protect privacy. We have spent enormous amounts of time and effort figuring out how to disaggregate the important specks from the overwhelming bulk of irrelevant data.


That is true, nothing was ever said during this "debate" about what the goals and purpose actually was.
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