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brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:11 PM Jan 2012

Psychology Today: What Rick Santorum Doesn’t Know About Sex

Rick Santorum doesn’t know what sex is for.

In a recent appearance in New Hampshire, he summarized his thoughts on the subject, saying, “God made man and woman, and men and women come together to have a union to produce children, which keeps civilization going and provides the best environment for children to be raised.” While this may seem a common-sense understanding of the function and purpose of sexuality, it doesn’t apply to human beings.

What Santorum is missing can be expressed in simple math. The vast majority of species have sex only to reproduce—a function reflected in a very low ratio of sex-acts-to-births. Gorillas, for example, have intercourse at most about a dozen times per birth. And as with good Catholics, gorilla sex is all business: no oral, anal, manual, or any other kind of non-reproductive dilly-dallying. The female of most mammals only has sex when she is ovulating. Otherwise, no go. But the sexuality of human beings—and our closest primate relations, bonobos and chimps—is utterly different. We and our chimp and bonobo cousins typically have sex hundreds—if not thousands—of times per birth, with or without contraception.

Santorum has argued that contraception is morally wrong because, “It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.” But human beings happily experience, witness, imagine, and lament a cornicopia of erotic encounters that couldn’t possibly result in conception. Leaving aside the many “perversions” happily practiced by humans the world over, the human female is available even for Vatican-approved missionary position intercourse—at least theoretically—when she’s menstruating, already pregnant, post-menopausal, or otherwise precluded from conceiving. Is this, too, an abomination? Even Santorum and his wife, who have had more children than most couples, have certainly had a lot more non-reproductive than reproductive sex over the years.

by Christopher Ryan

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Psychology Today: What Rick Santorum Doesn’t Know About Sex (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2012 OP
I'm guessing this is a pretty long article... Aristus Jan 2012 #1
There will be more installments.... izquierdista Jan 2012 #5
It doesn't cover the topic that thoroughly. It's well worth reading. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #13
The whole article is very interesting. K&R. yardwork Jan 2012 #2
It would take a long time to list all the things Santorum doesn't understand. FSogol Jan 2012 #3
I doubt he's ever had any (well, other than possibly dogs). HopeHoops Jan 2012 #4
He never made the great leap out of the middle ages and the domination of alien episcopal supremacy htuttle Jan 2012 #6
My theory is that Rick's never had really good sex. no_hypocrisy Jan 2012 #7
Even Santorum and his wife...have certainly had a lot more non-reproductive than reproductive sex kenny blankenship Jan 2012 #8
"certainly had a lot more non-reproductive than reproductive sex over the years" Orangepeel Jan 2012 #9
I suppose all men married to post menopausal women HockeyMom Jan 2012 #10
God made Mary pregnant with no sex at all treestar Jan 2012 #15
Face it - Rick Santorum is probably the most sexually frustrated person in the world. jillan Jan 2012 #11
Beautiful, loving and excellent discussion of sex and community in the lives of us human beings. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #12
psychology today forgets to address psychology knocklindquist Jan 2012 #14
Actually, most animals have sex because it's fun usrname Jan 2012 #16
But doesn't this article perpetuate a patriarchal "rape culture?" mistertrickster Jan 2012 #17
The author doesn't do much better than Santorum eallen Jan 2012 #18
"Biological Exuberance" by Bruce Bagemihl saras Jan 2012 #19
Everything santorum knows about sex he learned from the HAND Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #20
Sanitorium is frustated because Sandusky's sex ring is gone. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2012 #21
I could never have sex with any holier-than-thou type. alarimer Jan 2012 #22

FSogol

(45,473 posts)
3. It would take a long time to list all the things Santorum doesn't understand.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:20 PM
Jan 2012

Good article. "Sex and love hold communities—not just families—together."

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
4. I doubt he's ever had any (well, other than possibly dogs).
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:35 PM
Jan 2012

If YOU were married to Mr. Frothy, would YOU have sex with him? Seriously. That's just "icky". Hmm. "Icky Ricky"? Nah, I still like Mr. Frothy better - remember to hit the Google link!

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
8. Even Santorum and his wife...have certainly had a lot more non-reproductive than reproductive sex
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jan 2012

Please don't make me imagine Rick Santorum having sex. Invisibul unrec!

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
10. I suppose all men married to post menopausal women
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jan 2012

either will have to twiddle their tumbs, or find some young chickie who CAN conceive since procreation is the ONLY reason for intercourse.

Better prevent all the old widows from remarrying since they won't be making any babies. You know, when these religious kooks talk about gays should not be able to marry because they can't procreate, ask them if they want to require fertility tests of straight couples, and outraight ban post menopausal women from marrying. One moron said, "Well, they might be SURPRISED to find they are pregnant". A 65 year old woman??????? ROFL

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. God made Mary pregnant with no sex at all
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jan 2012

And made Elizabeth pregnant when she was old.

So with God all things are possible, even a gay couple might conceive!

Ricky is just not religious enough.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. Face it - Rick Santorum is probably the most sexually frustrated person in the world.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 10:59 PM
Jan 2012

It's no wonder why he talks about it so much. barf....

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Beautiful, loving and excellent discussion of sex and community in the lives of us human beings.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:44 AM
Jan 2012

We try to be monogamous. But many of us do not always succeed. Those of us who do succeed are lucky and should not bear too much ill will toward those who fail.

 

knocklindquist

(5 posts)
14. psychology today forgets to address psychology
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jan 2012

The author fails to address the professed topic of Psychology Today - namely, psychology. The mental, moral, and social effects of sexual activity on the person are utterly ignored in exchange for a novice appeal to biology. Also, this is an opinion piece only, with more than a little sarcasm.

 

usrname

(398 posts)
16. Actually, most animals have sex because it's fun
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jan 2012

There's no way that an animal, especially "lower" order animals can conceptualize, "hey, I want babies, so I will have sex." And that's even especially true for the male part of the species when in many cases, they have sex and never ever see the results as they move on to greener pastures.

It's just that the hormones activate at certain times of the year or month or day that gets them interested in getting off. They find what it takes to get them off and off they go. It's not as though a bat understands the consequences of having sex, or that after some relatively long period of gestation, a baby bat is produced. They just get the urge, get it on and done. Not much different from humans.

 

mistertrickster

(7,062 posts)
17. But doesn't this article perpetuate a patriarchal "rape culture?"
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jan 2012

That ignores the way sex is used to objectivize women (or objectivize women for sex, whichever is most convenient for the argument at hand) and make them bad at math?

Or something?



On edit--good article, k'd and r'd.

eallen

(2,953 posts)
18. The author doesn't do much better than Santorum
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jan 2012

There are many animals that have sex far more often than necessary for reproduction, from ducks and dolphins to giant squid.

More, none of them are doing it for the purpose of reproduction. Any notion of a duck's sexual thoughts (nice tail?) is quite speculative. But it sure isn't "well, we better to do it one more time because it's that time of the year and we want a good batch of chicks."

I suspect humans may be the only animals capable of having sex for the purpose of reproducing, because likely we're the only animals with the cognitive capacity to connect sex and reproduction. Which isn't usually why we do it. But it's never why any other animal does it.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
19. "Biological Exuberance" by Bruce Bagemihl
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jan 2012

You just KNOW they're going to LOVE the idea of gay-bashing male deer in Texas (yes, they exist), but you can't make sense of them without coming to terms with the concept "gay" in a whole new way. Exploding heads left and right.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
22. I could never have sex with any holier-than-thou type.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 06:10 PM
Jan 2012

How boring they would be. I feel sorry for his wife. Does she just lie there and hope it's over quickly so she can get back to her book?
I would rather be dead that have to have sex with someone like that. Though I do wonder if Santorum is a closet case.

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