Are schools making kids sick?
Programming note: For more about environmental health issues in the classroom, watch Dr. Sanjay Gupta's report "Toxic Schools" on "CNN Presents" tonight and Sunday at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET on CNN.
(CNN) -- As a third-grader in Winsted, Connecticut, last year, Matthew Asselin was sick -- a lot. He was lethargic and plagued with a persistent wet cough, respiratory infections and painful headaches.
As the school year wound down, Matthew's health worsened. He was out for two weeks in the spring with pneumonia and then developed a sinus infection so severe he needed to spend the night at the hospital, where he received intravenous antibiotics and breathing treatments.
In all, Matthew missed 53 days of school.
But over the summer, a strange thing happened. Matthew was healthy. He was energetic. He could ride his bike for hours at a time.
(...)
Matthew's parents concluded that the 9-year-old's school, Hinsdale Elementary, was making their son sick.
full: http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/14/health/school-indoor-air-pollution/index.html
Vince843
(13 posts)A lot of schools are older buildings and not brought up to code. Add to that the fact that you're crammed in with 20 other students, you're statistically going to get a lot more people getting sick. Also school cafeterias aren't exactly sanitary, from what I can remember.
KT2000
(20,568 posts)A friend used to pick his grandchildren up from school. He noticed that the school busses idled right in front of the air intakes and front door to the building. He had to find relevant state law and take it to the principal to get that changed.
Where I live, parents must ask to be informed when pesticides are sprayed in the school. Most do not know they have to do this.
Old ventilation systems carry polluted air through the buildings.
Mold is a problem in schools.
Carpets are sometimes a problem.
Strong cleaning products are used.
For all the risks involved, schools cover it up and do not clean up hazardsous situations - they do not want to even hint at liability.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)southerncrone
(5,506 posts)My classroom had water-stained/molded ceiling tiles for years, just like those in the pictures. I begged for them to be replaced, took 7 yrs! Then within 2 months they were right back w/stains & mold again. There are some heating /ac units covered in black mold! And have been for decades!
This is a bottom-line problem that is coming home to roost.
1. Many of our schools are over 35 yrs old.
2. The newer buildings were built w/o windows & w/few doors, not allowing for much fresh air flow.
3. Maintenance was seldom (or never done) on building because of lazy workers, or cost savings.
The air filters were not changed for years & years!
4. School systems are having to use valuable funds to satisfy NCLB mandates that do little to improve the educational setting. Testing companies are the benefactors....kids' health suffers.
and from my experience the biggest problem:
5. OUTSOURCING OF JANITORIAL JOBS!
A. Job was always awarded to the lowest bidder.
B. Once company was awarded job they did little oversight.
C. Janitorial supervisors "buddyed-up" (or worse) to school administrators so there was never any accountability expected.
D. Janitors did poor, half-way jobs.....if they did anything at all.
(Example: The sinks were only cleaned over the summer, or if a kid threw-up in them.)
E. Teachers ended up having to do this job, too. (See: "Why Johnny Can't Read"
It really is a wonder more kids don't have extremely serious health problems from spending so many hours in such unhealthy conditions most of the day. Many of us teachers had serious respiratory problems.....quite a few needing surgery.
But, we know teachers are disposable....just ask Scott Walker.
And kids don't vote, or pay taxes.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)The building I teach in is celebrating its 100th anniversary this year.
I want to know what other industry is located in 100 year old buildings. We don't mind warehousing our children in aged facilities but we would never put our doctors' offices, lawyers' offices, or retail stores in buildings this old. If you hired any other professional and pulled up in front of his/her office to find it a 100 year old building, you'd pull out and find someone else to do the job.
alp227
(32,006 posts)Congress has met in the same building since the 1790s. My state California has operated its capitol building since 1874.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Schools, on the other hand, are allowed to slowly crumble away while maintenance is ignored.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)where I worked. It was a NEW building also, but apparently they cut corners and the ventilation system was poor. We were all getting sick; sore throats, congested, coughing, etc. Over the weekends, and breaks, everyone got better. When we went back to school, everyone was sick. One day while cleaning out a closet, the teacher noticed mold inside the cabinets. We checked around and found more mold growing under the table tops.
The custodians went around checked other classrooms and found the mold there also.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Why is it acceptable for our children to spend the majority of their waking hours in buildings that we wouldn't allow to remain standing if used for any other purpose? Buildings we would vacate if they weren't schools?
We don't pay for proper maintenance of our school buildings either. I taught in a brand new school once where people were getting sick. Turned out the filter system for the heat and a/c wasn't adequate. But the district did not have the money to make it work correctly so they sued the builder instead. While lawyers wrangled, students and teachers kept getting sick.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)wrong with old buildings provided they are up-graded and maintained properly. Install new wiring, lighting, plumbing fixtures; seal the windows and insulate and you've got a building that is better than most modern construction; stone, brick, hardwood floors, real wood mouldings etc. . My kids did fine in a century old elementary school and developed asthma when they moved on to a brand new junior high. The junior high was built in a swamp and had mold growing behind its false facade and in its ventilation system.
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proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)When you don't clean up asbestos, people get cancer.
When you can't circulate fresh air in a building, people get sick.
I've worked in schools where all of this happened. Sure pesticides may not hurt our kids, but dirty air will. I've been saying for years that this is the next big health scandal - just waiting to be exposed.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)"Broad-leaved weed pests are common in turf and include plants, such as
● Black Medick
● Buckhorn
● Common Chickweed
● Creeping Buttercup
● Dandelion
● English Daisy
● Heal-All
● Knotweed Oxalis
● Pineappleweed
● Plantain
● Veronica
● White Clover
● Yarrow, and more.
Many of these weeds, once established, have to be killed or removed
they DO NOT go away on their own."
Can you explain why these pants must be eliminated from the turf at the expense of adding herbicides to the environment?
Can you explain why a cash strapped school district would spend money on this?
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)years ago before they started air conditioning schools, people used to open the windows. You don't see that happening today. We have a 2 1/2 yrs old new construction masonary public building where i live and the environmental systems stink. The building was designed by a firm that mostly build schools, in fact the building resembles one. Silica dust is probably the biggest factor its gets into everything in a new building and it stays there unless the building is superly professional cleaned and decon'ed. Everytime the heating/ac or vacummn cleaners or just general heavy foot traffic it stirrs up this stuff...and its a whole new season.
I know only because I was experiencing many of the same complaints the child in this article has. Choking wet cough, runny nose, the whole works.....was given all kinds of allergy & asthma medicines some caused even more problems. I found certain room made me react even more and those were ones that had commercial carpet and high recessed area where a regular cleaning can't be reached. It would just choke off my breathing....
Well I went and got tested for my cold like symptoms that never seem to quite go away.......and I found I was alergic to the silica dust in the building. When I avoid rooms with carpeting and those fancy recess area I find my symptoms are minor.
I worked with an old Italian stone mason years ago, on a reconstruction project. He said old stone house are the best because the stones can breath, new houses don't breath. I think he was right. We would wash the stones and flush away all the excess, kind of hard to do it in a modern building.