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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:53 PM Nov 2013

The reason why we have so many Unarmed Citizens being shot by police

Definitely worth the time to read

A whole cottage industry has sprung up of police experts and training specialists, such as the Force Science Institute, who educate departments and officers throughout the country that waiting for the gun to come out is too late. As Professor Ross argues, logically, there will have to be a nexus between the officer’s stated belief as to what occurred and his actions in response, but in my view that nexus can get awfully shaky but still withstands official scrutiny.

But Ross comes from the camp which stands solidly behind Graham v. Connor.He is not alone in mindset when he suggests that department policies and training “should direct an officer to respond to the pre-assault threat cues of an assault without waiting for the actual assault to commence.” That’s right — shoot to kill because you think you will be assaulted at some point in the near future.

Thus we have a condition where the law allows use of deadly force on nothing but the perception that its use is justified and a condition where that belief is proven with nothing more than the statements of the involved officer. In some cases, such as this weekend in North Carolina, it is abundantly clear that the officer was not being reasonable; but that is the rare exception. Proving that an officer is not telling the truth if he chooses to lie is even more of a challenge.

https://medium.com/p/74a4da37a0ae


And they want to outlaw airsoft guns once more as if that will help

The problem is systemic within the police community
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The reason why we have so many Unarmed Citizens being shot by police (Original Post) FreakinDJ Nov 2013 OP
The current shot to kill if you even think you might someday be under threat, is rhett o rick Nov 2013 #1
The Bush Doctrine for cops. Scuba Nov 2013 #2
No Habeas Corpus in the use of lethal Force FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #3
I want cops to come home safe to their families as much as anyone. Aristus Nov 2013 #4
They can start by not automatically seeing any person of color as a fucking criminal... Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #5
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. The current shot to kill if you even think you might someday be under threat, is
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:00 AM
Nov 2013

a heaven for psychopaths.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
4. I want cops to come home safe to their families as much as anyone.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:20 PM
Nov 2013

But if you put on the badge, you have to accept the responsibility that the lives of innocent people come before your own. And that if you kill an innocent or unarmed person because you feel threatened, then you're not really worthy to wear the badge, or trustworthy enough to bear a firearm.

Robin Williams seems to have it right when he joked (sheesh! probably 20 years ago, or so) that American cops were like this:

BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG! - "Stop, or I'll shoot!"

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