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MinM

(2,650 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:36 PM Nov 2013

The Parallax View: a JFK film that gets it right

Parkland and other movies about JFK's assassination show just how far to the right Hollywood has shifted. Alan J Pakula's classic film, however, is a high point of New American Cinema

...After a couple of films in 1967 – the documentary Rush to Judgment and Bruce Conner's experimental short film Report – that critiqued the Warren commission's findings, in 1973 a Hollywood feature called Executive Action arrived. It mixed documentary footage with live action, and portrayed the assassination as a conspiracy by the CIA and big business interests. Executive Action is a decent, strangely low-key film; what's interesting is just how mainstream it was. Burt Lancaster played the CIA coup leader, while Robert Ryan and Will Geer played Texas oil men who want Kennedy dead. Dalton Trumbo, once blacklisted, wrote the script, and the film was directed by David Miller, whose CV contains another good picture, Lonely Are the Brave.

Hollywood later revisited the Kennedy assassination with Winter Kills (1979), based on Richard Condon's paranoid thriller; Ruby (1992), a stumbling biopic about Lee Harvey Oswald's killer Jack Ruby; and most famously in 1991 with JFK, Oliver Stone's epic mega-budget version of events. JFK is a hagiography of Kennedy theorist Jim Garrison, a bombastic New Orleans prosecutor and homophobe who tried to convict a gay CIA associate, Clay Shaw, of the president's murder. Garrison's case was ultimately unconvincing: a jury found Shaw innocent, which undercuts Stone's telling of history. Nevertheless, the film provoked a public outcry and led to the release of thousands of previously secret files by the Assassination Records Review board.

For my money, the best JFK conspiracy movie isn't, strictly speaking, about the Kennedy assassination. Made in 1974, Alan J Pakula's The Parallax View borrows from the murders of both Kennedy brothers to tell the tale of a mysterious organisation, the Parallax Corporation, which deals in political assassination and the creation of "lone assassin" patsies.

The reader will recall that Lee Harvey Oswald, during his brief time in the custody of the Dallas police, denied murdering the president and cried out to reporters: "I'm a patsy! I'm a patsy!" – strange behaviour for someone who, according to Parkland and the Warren Report, killed Kennedy to become famous. The Parallax View, written by David Giler, Lorenzo Semple Jr and an uncredited Robert Towne, describes how such patsies are created...

http://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2013/nov/19/the-parallax-view-kennedy-assassination
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The Parallax View: a JFK film that gets it right (Original Post) MinM Nov 2013 OP
For those who have not seen this film Jacoby365 Nov 2013 #1
Lee Harvey Oswald was a nutjob duffyduff Nov 2013 #2
be grown up like you? heaven05 Nov 2013 #4
I assume your mind is also open to the idea of the Earth being only 6,000 years old. stopbush Nov 2013 #5
If you say so. heaven05 Nov 2013 #8
No, I tend to follow the evidence. If the evidence isn't good enough for you stopbush Nov 2013 #10
like I said, you're entitled to your assumptions heaven05 Nov 2013 #11
Do you think the government always tells the truth? pacalo Nov 2013 #14
It's not a matter of believing the government cpwm17 Nov 2013 #15
You stick to your evaluation of the "evidence" & I'll stick to mine. pacalo Nov 2013 #16
Most people don't know the facts cpwm17 Nov 2013 #17
I see. pacalo Nov 2013 #18
Exactly. stopbush Nov 2013 #22
Two of the Warren Commission members publicly said they did not believe Oswald acted alone dflprincess Nov 2013 #20
And Michael Moore thinks OJ didn't kill his wife. stopbush Nov 2013 #23
My point is that you who defend the Commission's version dflprincess Nov 2013 #36
So Oswald called off Politicalboi Nov 2013 #28
No. Do you think CTists do? stopbush Nov 2013 #21
Frankly, I'm offended by your use of the JFK avatar. pacalo Nov 2013 #24
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #25
Oswald murdered Kennedy cpwm17 Nov 2013 #30
Your reply at #17 pretty much conveys how you feel. pacalo Nov 2013 #33
Book about Lee Harvey Oswald ©1962 MinM Nov 2013 #31
LOL Enthusiast Nov 2013 #32
Great film - Parallax View. dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #3
Er, I'd think that films like Parkland that deal with the facts stopbush Nov 2013 #6
Another great film: Winter Kills Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #7
Some of the responses here are hilarious. dogknob Nov 2013 #9
Damn scary movie. Probably much too close to reality Doctor_J Nov 2013 #12
They missed "The Package" with Gene Hackman and Tommy Lee Jones jakeXT Nov 2013 #13
"The Package" is very underrated as well villager Nov 2013 #26
For a good companion piece, go read about Operation Northwoods. Hand in glove, hand in glove... blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #27
I recall it was an excellent film. I would love to see it again. CrawlingChaos Nov 2013 #29
And then Reagan got elected, and the pop songs suddenly shifted to things like Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #34
Executive Action was recommended by an otherwise non-political friend Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #35
"Chilling" is the same word I used to describe "Executive Action" dflprincess Nov 2013 #37
... one would think now, with so much of the Koch/Carlyle agenda echoing that same philosophy ... Myrina Nov 2013 #38
 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
2. Lee Harvey Oswald was a nutjob
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:46 PM
Nov 2013

I wouldn't watch anything that twists history.

Sorry, there is no evidence of a conspiracy, and it's time for people to grow up and accept it.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
5. I assume your mind is also open to the idea of the Earth being only 6,000 years old.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:16 PM
Nov 2013

How about the existence of Zeus? Is your mind open to that as well?

I ask, because the JFK CTs are on the same level as those topics.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. If you say so.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:24 PM
Nov 2013

I just don't agree with your assessment. Period. You're entitled to a narrow view because of a closed mind, good luck.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
10. No, I tend to follow the evidence. If the evidence isn't good enough for you
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:42 PM
Nov 2013

you're welcome to your fantasies.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
15. It's not a matter of believing the government
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:31 PM
Nov 2013

We have the evidence. We can evaluate the evidence just as easily as government officials.

The evidence proves that Oswald killed JFK and there is no evidence that he had help. I don't need any government official to tell me how to think.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
16. You stick to your evaluation of the "evidence" & I'll stick to mine.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:41 PM
Nov 2013

60% of the American people who were recently polled do believe there is more to the JFK assassination than what we were told to believe.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
20. Two of the Warren Commission members publicly said they did not believe Oswald acted alone
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:33 PM
Nov 2013

(John Sherman Cooper & Richard Russell) and a third, Hale Boggs, made it clear he had his doubts. All three objected to the way the FBI was allowed to run the investigation.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
36. My point is that you who defend the Commission's version
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:19 PM
Nov 2013

always treat it as some all-knowing entity never mentioning that 1/3 of its members didn't believe the story it told.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
28. So Oswald called off
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:13 AM
Nov 2013

The secret service guys on JFK's car so he could get a better shot. Amazing.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
24. Frankly, I'm offended by your use of the JFK avatar.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:47 AM
Nov 2013

A true admirer of his would not have an attitude of complete dismissal about what happened to him, not to mention being contemptible toward those who have a different opinion than you do. I lived through the days when only right-wingers did that. I'm not so sure that anything has changed in that regard.

Response to pacalo (Reply #24)

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
30. Oswald murdered Kennedy
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:03 AM
Nov 2013

That's a fact.

You have every right to blame innocent people for Kennedy's assassination. Many of us don't feel the need to let off Kennedy's assassin so easily. Oswald killed Kennedy. The evidence proves it. Also, the evidence strongly indicates that he had no help, and there certainly is zero evidence that he had help.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
33. Your reply at #17 pretty much conveys how you feel.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:58 PM
Nov 2013

You should use the auto-keyword-trash function instead of disrupting threads that pertain to JFK.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
31. Book about Lee Harvey Oswald ©1962
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:45 AM
Nov 2013
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fdUrtLKqL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
A book about Oswald written BEFORE the JFK assasination!

By "rodney23" on May 3, 2000

Kerry Thornley was stationed in Japan with Lee Harvey Oswald at one of only two US bases where LSD experiments took place. It's Thornley's contention that the purpose of these experiments was to create "Manchurian Candidates" - assassins on autopilot. This could be dismissed as a paranoid rant, but this book was written before Nov. 22, 1963. Hmmm, maybe that's why it's no longer in print. If you do manage to get your hands on a copy, count yourself among the lucky.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Idle-Warriors-Kerry-Thornley/dp/0962653403

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
6. Er, I'd think that films like Parkland that deal with the facts
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:18 PM
Nov 2013

in the JFK murder are the high point in American cinema as they deal with the truth.

All of those other films mentioned are fictions, and fictions pushing a fact-free agenda.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
7. Another great film: Winter Kills
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:22 PM
Nov 2013

Also fiction, but a rich imagining of the meaning of the Kennedy assassination and the shadowy world of elites. Bombed when it came out, now considered a classic 70s conspiracy film.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
9. Some of the responses here are hilarious.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:37 PM
Nov 2013

As if making a straight-up documentary about JFK would have been even remotely possible during Nixon's presidency.

Making The Parallax View took courage. Parkland is spineless PR and nothing but. Dallas has been priming the cash-cow teats for the big 5-0 for a few years now.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
12. Damn scary movie. Probably much too close to reality
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:52 PM
Nov 2013

the "single bullet" devotees are kooky imo. Read Michael Parenti's take on the whole deal.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
19. For a good companion piece, go read about Operation Northwoods. Hand in glove, hand in glove...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:09 PM
Nov 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

"In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba..."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
29. I recall it was an excellent film. I would love to see it again.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 06:18 AM
Nov 2013

Good lord, you'd never see that movie made today. Really makes me think about what a different time the '70s were. I was just a teenager, but I recall vividly the vibe - the momentum swinging away from authoritarianism, and the growing distrust. It seemed like for this brief window of time people were actually willing to see the world the way it really works. Not everyone, of course, but a lot of people. Too much message control in place now for that to happen again - that is, until we reach some sort of breaking point. I hope I live to see it.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
34. And then Reagan got elected, and the pop songs suddenly shifted to things like
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:07 PM
Nov 2013

"I Need a Hero" ("and he's gotta be fresh from the fight&quot and one whose title I can't remember but which had the repetitious refrain "You'll never change the world."

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
35. Executive Action was recommended by an otherwise non-political friend
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:10 PM
Nov 2013

and I found it chilling.

Whether the assassination theory is true or not, the portrayal of a bunch of rich white guys disdaining ordinary people and talking about "thinning the herd" rang true.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
38. ... one would think now, with so much of the Koch/Carlyle agenda echoing that same philosophy ...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:46 AM
Nov 2013

... people wouldn't be so dismissive of a MIC-Big Oil conspiracy theory.

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