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marmar

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Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:37 PM Jan 2012

The Crash and Burn Future of Robot Warfare


from TomDispatch:



The Crash and Burn Future of Robot Warfare
What 70 Downed Drones Tell Us About the New American Way of War

By Nick Turse


American fighter jets screamed over the Iraqi countryside heading for the MQ-1 Predator drone, while its crew in California stood by helplessly. What had begun as an ordinary reconnaissance mission was now taking a ruinous turn. In an instant, the jets attacked and then it was all over. The Predator, one of the Air Force’s workhorse hunter/killer robots, had been obliterated.

An account of the spectacular end of that nearly $4 million drone in November 2007 is contained in a collection of Air Force accident investigation documents recently examined by TomDispatch. They catalog more than 70 catastrophic Air Force drone mishaps since 2000, each resulting in the loss of an aircraft or property damage of $2 million or more.

These official reports, some obtained by TomDispatch through the Freedom of Information Act, offer new insights into a largely covert, yet highly touted war-fighting, assassination, and spy program involving armed robots that are significantly less reliable than previously acknowledged. These planes, the latest wonder weapons in the U.S. military arsenal, are tested, launched, and piloted from a shadowy network of more than 60 bases spread around the globe, often in support of elite teams of special operations forces. Collectively, the Air Force documents offer a remarkable portrait of modern drone warfare, one rarely found in a decade of generally triumphalist or awestruck press accounts that seldom mention the limitations of drones, much less their mission failures.

The aerial disasters described draw attention not only to the technical limitations of drone warfare, but to larger conceptual flaws inherent in such operations. Launched and landed by aircrews close to battlefields in places like Afghanistan, the drones are controlled during missions by pilots and sensor operators -- often multiple teams over many hours -- from bases in places like Nevada and North Dakota. They are sometimes also monitored by “screeners” from private security contractors at stateside bases like Hurlburt Field in Florida. (A recent McClatchy report revealed that it takes nearly 170 people to keep a single Predator in the air for 24 hours.) ...............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175489/tomgram%3A_nick_turse%2C_drone_disasters_/#more (follows a brief intro)



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The Crash and Burn Future of Robot Warfare (Original Post) marmar Jan 2012 OP
"A year working in artificial intelligence is enough to make anybody believe in God" napoleon_in_rags Jan 2012 #1

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
1. "A year working in artificial intelligence is enough to make anybody believe in God"
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jan 2012

Or so goes the old quote. Good read though, it actually brings up much larger issues with robots in general. People have worked decades trying to make computes act and think like humans, when an abundance of humans is all we have. Of course in war situations the ethics change, trying to save lives and all, but it underlines cost-benefits questions about technology that may point to a future where human optimization is more powerful than mechanization.

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